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by **Tim Olso** » Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.

Tim

by **Jochen Heisterma** » Thu, 14 Mar 1996 04:00:00

: I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
: Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
: as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
: Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
: I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.
:
:
The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient in
racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who can
compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget competition
from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to perfect
and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there are
allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.

Jochen

by **Neil Yeatma** » Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
> Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
> as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
> Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
> I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.

> Tim

Damon Hill...who's he? Oh wait...he's the guy that was trying to keep up with
Jacques Villeneuve last weekend...something he better get used to... :)

Way to go, Jacques! Bummer about that oil leak...a win in his first race would
have been amazing! They might as well hand the constructors championship to
Williams right now, and let Jacques and Damon fight over the drivers points.

Of course, Shumacher might have something to say about that.. :)

--
Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

Get out of the road
if you want to get old....

by **Guido Ka** » Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
> Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
> as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
> Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
> I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.

> Tim

Hallo Tim,
I'm currently from Germany but for the next three years in Alabama.
In Germany the Formula 1 is very popular and you can belive me that Damon
Hill is absolut not popular. He was last season in the absolut best car
but he never had a chance against Michael.
Please write me a message back when the next time Formula 1 is on TV
please.
Bye Guido

by **John Vozna** » Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:00:00

I don't know where you live, but I imagine that if you lived in Germany
you would probably he alot about M. Shumacher and if you lived in Italy
or France, you would probably here alot about Alesi, etc..
Unfortunately, here in the U.S. we don't here alot about F1 in general.
:-( Except for some coverage from ESPN. :-)

John

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by **T. Dougl** » Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>: I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver
is
>: Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there,
such
>: as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and
Johnny
>: Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on
TV.
>: I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.
>:
>:
>The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient
in
>racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who
can
>compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget
competition
>from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to
perfect
>and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there
are
>allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.

>Jochen

Sorry I think you have made a typing error. Damon Hill is good but he is not
a genius and could never be compared to Fangio, Senna, Prost, Most or the
fastest driver of all Gilles. The only driver with a claim to genius that is
currently racing in F1 is the son of God Jaques ( Prost II the return) Also
Alesi is very good. Put Hill in a Bennetton and se if he still wins. He may
do but then agin he may not.

Tristam Douglas

by **Mark Yeun** » Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> : I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
> : Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
> : as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
> : Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
> : I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.
> :
> :
> The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient in
> racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who can
> compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget competition
> from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to perfect
> and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there are
> allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.

I agree with your point that Hill has great talent, but the FW17&FW18 are really
superior and more stable cars than the rest of the field.

Mark Yeung

by **David McK** » Sat, 16 Mar 1996 04:00:00

: >The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient
: in
: >racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who
: can
: >compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget
: competition
: >from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to
: perfect
: >and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there
: are
: >allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.
: >
: >Jochen

: Sorry I think you have made a typing error. Damon Hill is good but he is not
: a genius and could never be compared to Fangio, Senna, Prost, Most or the
: fastest driver of all Gilles. The only driver with a claim to genius that is
: currently racing in F1 is the son of God Jaques ( Prost II the return) Also
: Alesi is very good. Put Hill in a Bennetton and se if he still wins. He may
: do but then agin he may not.

Do try to understand the sarcasm in Jochen's post :-)!

Martin
Nigel Mansell RIP!

by **Rob Adl** » Sun, 17 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>: I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
>: Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
>: as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
>: Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
>: I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.
>:
>:
>The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient in
>racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who can
>compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget competition
>from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to perfect
>and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there are
>allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.
>Jochen

You must be kidding, Jochen! Are you talking about THE Damon Hill -
Mr Personality himself. The same guy in the best/fastest/most powerful
car (Williams) that still has to punt his opposition off the track to
'try' to win the World Championship?
If so, I fail to see how good he is if his new team mate in his
FIRST Formula 1 race can out qualify him. After all he has had THREE
full seasons in a car that is set up for him, not his team mates. I
know Jacque is a good driver but come on...

by **Mark Yeun** » Tue, 19 Mar 1996 04:00:00

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> > >: I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
> > >: Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
> > >: as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
> > >: Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
> > >: I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.
> > >:
> > >:
> > >The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient in
> > >racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who can
> > >compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget competition
> > >from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to perfect
> > >and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there are
> > >allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.

> > >Jochen

> > You must be kidding, Jochen! Are you talking about THE Damon Hill -
> > Mr Personality himself. The same guy in the best/fastest/most powerful
> > car (Williams) that still has to punt his opposition off the track to
> > 'try' to win the World Championship?
> > If so, I fail to see how good he is if his new team mate in his
> > FIRST Formula 1 race can out qualify him. After all he has had THREE
> > full seasons in a car that is set up for him, not his team mates. I
> > know Jacque is a good driver but come on...

> Yeah? And if Schumacher is so great, how come Irvine walked all over him in qualifying?

Well, someting fell off from his car during qualifying. He slowed down quite
dramaticly after the incident.

I think JV did more than 9000 miles. Still, Hill spent his last season with the
FW17, which is very similar to the FW18.

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by **Glenn Davi** » Tue, 19 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Dave me old matey, I was wondering when you'd surface in defence of
Damon Hill.

>BTW. It's not original or funny to take the***out of Hill.

It's not original but it sure is funny. Villeneuve will be doing it
for the rest of the season ;)

by Ra » Fri, 22 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>> I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
>> Damon Hill. There are many other talented Formula One drivers out there, such
>> as Jean Alesi, Eddie Irvine, David Coulthard, Michael Shumacher, and Johnny
>> Herbert, but I barely ever hear or see anything about them except for on TV.
>> I have nothing against Damon Hill, but was just wondering.

>> Tim
>Damon Hill...who's he? Oh wait...he's the guy that was trying to keep up with
>Jacques Villeneuve last weekend...something he better get used to... :)
>Way to go, Jacques! Bummer about that oil leak...a win in his first race would
>have been amazing! They might as well hand the constructors championship to
>Williams right now, and let Jacques and Damon fight over the drivers points.
>Of course, Shumacher might have something to say about that.. :)
>--
> Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

> Get out of the road
> if you want to get old....

No doubt about that ...but you must admit to drive a race on someones
tail for so long takes some doing so Damon must be good but there are
better ...looks like the season is going to be a good one ...

by **Ken Nicols** » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

:No doubt about that ...but you must admit to drive a race on someones
:tail for so long takes some doing so Damon must be good but there are
:better ...looks like the season is going to be a good one ...
:

I see - so not being able to overtake is a sign of a good driver. If
it had be Schumi following Hill, would you have also credited Schumi
on his skill at being able to follow too?

Ken

by **Tim Olso** » Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>Excuse me Ken, but 'Schumi' did not even finish the race. Could that be
>because he not only could not overtake, but could not tail either? Oh I
> know.
>It wasn't 'Schumi's fault at all. It was the *** car company. First
> ability
>of a good driver is to get used to the car. It is a lot less expensive if
> the
>driver is able to make adjustments as opposed to trashing the car design
>because the driver has trouble driving a Ferrari like a Mclauren for
> example.

>A good driver will ALWAYS bring out the best in a car. A good car will not
>necessarily create a good driver.

Being a good driver doesn't cure a brake problem. A brake problem is the
reason that Schumacher didn't finish the race. The reason that many of the F1
drivers can't pass isn't because they don't know how to, its because of all
of the different car makes. Give them all Williams, Benettons, McLarens, or
perhaps even Lolas and Reynards, and you'll see a lot more passing in F1. You
also have to remember that Schumacher barely had any practice time in his
Ferrari.

by **Steve Dawkins MEn** » Thu, 28 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> : I was just wondering why it seems that the most popular Formula One driver is
> : Damon Hill.
> The answer is simple. Damon Hill has the second best points/races quotient in
> racing history (only Fangio did better). Hill is a natural supertalent, who can
> compete in his mediocre and unreliable Williams against the high-budget competition
> from Benetton, Ferrari, McLaren and so on. His reliability is close to perfect
> and sometimes he looks really invincible. Some small errors here and there are
> allowed - even a genius has the right to fail somehow.

> Jochen

Hang On! Since when has the FW-18 been "mediocre and unreliable"? Hill definately makes
his far share of clangers. I'm afraid you are talking out of your bum.

Steve.