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Game over.

Sorry - should of prefaced that with an "OT:"

I can't freakin believe it...  Jeees let em play till it's over...  May as
well strike tomorrow.

I dunno.  Baseball is my life and love, but that was one boring game.
Which is sad, because it was packed with offense, filled with
memorable moments, and full of tension from beginning to end.

It took nearly 4 hours to complete 9 innings, and maybe 30 minutes of
that (I'm being generous) actually involved playing the game.

Baseball needs to seriously do something about the constant lulls.  20
years ago guys didn't step out of the box after every single pitch and
commercial breaks weren't 3 friggen minutes long.  Seriously, I
haven't watched much baseball on TV since 93 and I'm completely
flabbergasted at how boring that game was.  Between the constant
starts and stops and listening to Tim McCarver I nearly chewed my foot
off.

Jason

Which pitcher's arm did you want to sacrifice for a meaningless game? The
Phillies kind of like their young pitcher.

David G Fisher

Yeah Yeah.  The post was definitely selfish and totally *** induced.  I'm a
Twins fan so I already don't like Bud for trying to off them - just a vent.

- David Cook

So they should just let the pitchers pitch their arms out?  I don't think
so.

You can argue that maybe they should not be concerned with getting every
player in the game.  This way, they would have extra pitching at the end.
Or maybe just make it a maximum of 10 or 11 innings no matter what.

I think it was bad what happened but it was more of the circumstances.  I
don't think Selig had a choice.  He made the right call in that situation.
Not a great one but had to be made.

The feeling I get is the powers that be in BB have indeed decided that a
strike is OTW.  Quite a few "invited" all-stars decided they didn't want to
attend and then this game stoppage at a tie, this isn't Soccer.

 Just not cool for the fans regardless of *arm wear*.  Hell it wasn't to
long ago pitchers threw 300+ inning a year and it was quite common.  No we
have a bunch of primadonna millionaires that whine/cry about everything.
Put the frreakin managers out there to pitch, but finish the game!!

Mitch

If the game has deteriorated to the point where guys can't pitch for more than
2 innings, then we may as well quit now... :(

Eldred
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Your missing the point.  He had plenty of rest before.  But if his team
wants him to pitch on Thursday, then he can't go over a certain number of
innings and then 2 days later go out and start a game with the expectation
of going the whole game.

In the old days when you ran out of pitchers, you brought in the right
fielder to throw an inning. I've seen it done many times, and no
reason last night should have been any different.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:10:05 GMT, "David G Fisher"

                  Tim Wortman
      North American Simulation Series
               www.nasscar.com

That would be a dumb move.  Pitching is very specialized as far as arm
motion and for a non pitcher to pitch, it could cause an injury.  Unless
they just go up and throw.  But is that really what fans want to see?

Canseco pitched once and was out for a long time because of it.

The biggest reason pitchers throw fewer innings now is because of the
length of the games (which needs to be and can easily be fixed if
baseball had a commissioner who understood the game).

If you go back through history, you'll see that pitchers as a whole
throw just as long, time-wise, as they did 20 years ago when a typical
game was 2/3 as long.  The problem is that an average pitcher's arm
tightens up after 2 to 2 and a half hours, and I can't remember the
last time I saw a game that was under 3.

There's a great quote by Jim Kaat, who was known for working quickly,
where he explained that his arm turned into a pumpkin after 2 hours.

Jason

And you think maybe the fans wanted to see a game end in a tie? You
know how much it costs to attend a major league game now days?

It's rare, but I've seen players from other positions come in to
pitch, and I can't remember any being out with injuries because of it.
I'm not saying it would have been pretty. Just trying to figure out
some way this game could have been completed.

                  Tim Wortman
      North American Simulation Series
               www.nasscar.com

Come on, why should the game be completed? This is an exhibition, and the
point is to watch the best players in baseball play the game. Do you really
think people in the crowd were desperate to see 'their league' win? Of
course not. The problem was that the concept of extra innings never seemed
to enter peoples' heads in advance. What should have been done, and what
should be done in future, is to tell people that the game will end after
9/10/11 innings no matter what the score. You get to see 3/4 hours of the
best players in baseball, then everyone goes home happy. If we get a winner,
great.

On the other hand, I do think that players today get treated with kid
gloves, and I think that they should have the professional pride to be
honored to play the all-star game, and the will to do what it takes to win.
The pitching should be used at least a little more like a regular game -
starters should pitch 3 innings minimum for example. Then perhaps we
wouldn't get in this mess in the first place.