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Force Feedback on the MOMO wheel is exceptional.  Just as good as GPL, might
be slightly better.  This is true 6 DOF force feedback.  It's not just grip
and inertia.  I feel the damn car bounce up and down when I hit undulating
road or inadvertently clip the curbing too hard and sort of jump the curb.
How they convey up and down movement through the wheel so well is beyond me.
You can feel the subtle change in grip when driving in light rain (haven't
done downpour yet).  I'm amazed.  I don't feel collisions but perhaps I need
to enable damage.

Smooth sailing with no GF3 related problems any longer.  I have graphics set
to FULL and resolution set to 1280x1024 32-bit and this game is flying.  80+
fps alone in test mode.  35 fps full field start of race and 45-60 racing.
The full detailed opponent cars are gorgeous.  The tracks are gorgeous.  Yes
I have a high end rig (AMD 1600+, 512 Ram, GF3 Ti 500), but I still didn't
expect this amazing performance.

The immersion of this racing experience puts me in that "zone".  The
realistic sound.  Stellar force feedback.  Very good AI that is thankfully
imperfect (I love coming around the chicane after the Monaco tunnel only to
find Montoya facing the wrong way after spinning). Spectacular graphics.
This is THE game for me.  Yes, I know I'm a bit over the top but this game
kicks ass.

Thanks to ISI for a treat that will spend a while on my hard drive (at least
until F1 2002).

--
Joe Marques

Andre

And how about that new engine backfire sound? Suitably crunchy, and yet it
doesn't sound like the gearbox falling apart for each downshift, like
GP3... :)

I use a GeForce 2 MX400 and a LWFF wheel (yes, the old red one). Before
patching, I ran with slightly old nVidia drivers, and had to turn off the
broadcast overlay, since it destroyed framerates. Now I'm using the 21.83
drivers and graphic problems are gone. I also had to update the LWFF
software to 4.11, since the old 3.something version also caused a framerate
collapse when turning on force feedback.

--
"Walk like a Syrian"

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I just can't get enough of this sim.  I was racing 50% at Monaco and fish
tailed a bit causing me to slam the damn wall and knock off my front
spoiler.  I'm sure this happened because I never drove so many laps with
tire wear and fuel usage on so I just sucked with a lighter car and bald
tires. ;-)  Best part was the FF after losing the front spoiler.  The car
felt lighter in the front end and understeer feel was excellent.  I knew
from the damn force feedback effects BEFORE turning that I would not have
the same grip.  This is just outstanding.

--
Joe Marques

--
Joe Marques

Andre

In windows I have the following:

Overall Effects Strength 100%
Spring Effect Strength 100%
Damper Effect Strength 0%
Centering Spring DISABLED

In the LW Profiler I set the following axis properties:

Wheel and Pedals: 100% Sensitivity - 0% Dead Zone - 100% Range

In game I set the following axis properties:
Wheel Sensitivity to 50%/Dead Zone 0%
Brake Sensitivity to 50%/Dead Zone 2%
Gas Sensitivity to 50%/Dead Zone 2%

Here's my .plr advanced FF settings.  The only odd thing is I keep changing
FFB_Effects_Level to 5 (as instructed) and it goes back to 4 (the file is
not read only, I checked).

FFB_Device_Type=2     // Set to 2 if editing FFB parameters manually.

FFB_Effects_Level=4     // Set to 5 (Custom) if you're editing FFB entries
manually. Please note: Editing this file is not officially supported, so
please refrain from reading the explanations below which could help you in
editing this file.

FFB_Gain=(1.000000)     // Floating point, 0.0 to 1.0, Overall strength of
FFB.

FFB_Throttle_FX_On_Steer_Axis=1     // 0 or 1.  0 = Throttle effects applied
to throttle axis, 1 = Throttle effects applied to the steering axis.

FFB_Brake_FX_On_Steer_Axis=1     // 0 or 1.  0 = Brake effects applied to
brake axis, 1 = Brake effects applied to the steering axis.

FFB_Steer_Vibe_Freq_Multiplier=(0.000000)     // Recommended: 0.5 - 1.0, 0.0
disables steering vibration.

FFB_Steer_Vibe_Zero_Magnitude=(0.120000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, recommended:
0.05 to 0.25.  Magnitude of vibration at 0rpm.

FFB_Steer_Vibe_Slope=(0.000000)     // Recommended: -2.0 to 2.0. Controls
change in magnitude of vibration as rpm changes.

FFB_Steer_Vibe_Wave_Type=0     // Wave type for vibration: 0=Sine, 1=square,
2=triangle, 3=sawtooth up, 4=sawtooth down.

FFB_Steer_Force_Exponent=(0.600000)     // Recommended: 0.5 to 2.0, 0.0
disables steering force.

FFB_Steer_Force_Input_Max=(-7000.000000)     // Recommended: 7000 (-7000 if
controller pulls in the wrong direction).

FFB_Steer_Force_Output_Max=(1.050000)     // -1.0 to 1.20 Recommended: 0.85
to 1.10  Maximum force output of steering force.

FFB_Steer_Force_Grip_Weight=(0.300000)     // Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0  How
much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering force.

FFB_Steer_Damper_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0, recommended: 0.0
to 0.5, 0.0 disables steering damper.

FFB_Steer_Damper_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, recommended: leave
it at 1.0 and change only the coefficient.

FFB_Steer_Update_Threshold=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, amount of change
required to update effect.

FFB_Throttle_Vibe_Freq_Multiplier=(0.000000)     // See
FFB_Steer_Vibe_Freq_Multiplier. 0.0 disables throttle vibration.

FFB_Throttle_Vibe_Zero_Magnitude=(0.175000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, recommended:
0.05 to 0.25

FFB_Throttle_Vibe_Slope=(0.000000)     // See FFB_Steer_Vibe_Slope for
explanation.

FFB_Throttle_Vibe_Wave_Type=0     // Wave type for vibration: 0=Sine,
1=square, 2=triangle, 3=sawtooth up, 4=sawtooth down.

FFB_Throttle_Vibe_Update_Threshold=(0.080000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, amount of
change required to update effect.

FFB_Brake_Vibe_Freq_Multiplier=(0.000000)     // Recommended 0.5 - 1.0, 0.0
disables brake vibration.

FFB_Brake_Vibe_Zero_Magnitude=(0.175000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, recommended:
0.05 to 0.25.  See FFB_Steer_Vibe_Zero_Magnitude for explanation.

FFB_Brake_Vibe_Slope=(0.000000)     // See FFB_Steer_Vibe_Slope for
explanation.

FFB_Brake_Vibe_Wave_Type=0     // Wave type for vibration: 0=Sine, 1=square,
2=triangle, 3=sawtooth up, 4=sawtooth down.

FFB_Brake_Vibe_Update_Threshold=(0.050000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, amount of
change required to update effect.

FFB_Rumble_Strip_Magnitude=(0.300000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, Recommended: 0.10
to 0.35, 0.0 disables rumble strip effect.

FFB_Rumble_Strip_Freq_Multiplier=(0.850000)     // Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0,
0.0 disables rumble strip effect.

FFB_Rumble_Strip_Wave_Type=0     // Wave type for vibration: 0=Sine,
1=square, 2=triangle, 3=sawtooth up, 4=sawtooth down.

FFB_Rumble_Strip_Pull_Factor=(0.000000)     // Recommended: -2.0 to 2.0  How
much rumble strips pull the steering. 0.0 disables pulling effect.

FFB_Rumble_Strip_Update_Threshold=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0, amount of
change required to update effect.

FFB_Jolt_Magnitude=(0.000000)     // Recommended: 0.25 to 0.75, 0.0 disables
Jolt effect.

FFB_Joy0_Axis0_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis0_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis0_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis0_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis1_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis1_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis1_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis1_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis2_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis2_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis2_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis2_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis3_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis3_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis3_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis3_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis4_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis4_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis4_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis4_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis5_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis5_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis5_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis5_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis6_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis6_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis6_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis6_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis7_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis7_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy0_Axis7_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(0.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy0_Axis7_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis0_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis0_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis0_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis0_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis1_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis1_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis1_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis1_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.075000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis2_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis2_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis2_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis2_Negative_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis3_Positive_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.

FFB_Joy1_Axis3_Positive_Spring_Coefficient=(0.000000)     // -1.0 to 1.0,
recommended: 0.0 to 1.0

FFB_Joy1_Axis3_Negative_Spring_Saturation=(1.000000)     // 0.0 to 1.0,
recommendation: leave at 1.0 and change coefficient.
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Andre

This happens every time you change FF through the menu. Don't go there when
you use custom settings! Only change the player file (which requires you
leave the game everytime you want to try a new setting :(

I have made a notepad file with the custom settings since they are lost so
easily I need to be able to copy them back.

Bart Westra

Aha!! So that's probably the reason why I have problems trying out the
different settings, since everytime I tried some settings I went to
the joystick screen to see if the setting was still negative as it
should be..

I wanted to test Joe's momo settings tonight, but for some stupid
reason F1 2001 won't start on my pc anymore :(((
Posted that problem in a new thread.

Andre

I have just purchased F1-2001 today and applied the patch from easports.com

Everything is great for me, I really like the audio but after patching I am
still not getting the backfire sounds while stuffing it into the chicanes.

I have the files in my sounds directory and they sound reasonably terrific
on their own in winamp.  Any suggestions?

I'm using a SBLive 5.1 Platinum running 6 channel analog on my h/k amp works
great for GP3 using GPxPatch but looks like F1-2001 skipped EAX.. :(  One of
my only complaints, having fun with this game.

see my pc setup if you like
http://www.jasonfagan.com/tech/littleboy/index.html

Thanks for any info.

Jason