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How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

The Unexplaine

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by The Unexplaine » Wed, 07 Jan 1998 04:00:00

One thing that I do find frustrating about F1-RS is the apparent deadzone
when braking and trying to steer.

I especially have problems with this on the fast tracks like Monza and
Hockenheim. More often than not, I miss a tight bend because the car just
completely fails to turn in. Fiddling with the settings to enduce more
oversteer show no result.

Does anyone know what can be done to remedy this?

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German Mark V Panther tank knock out three M4 and three M5 tanks during and
after being hit by at least fif*** rounds of 75mm APC from a distance of
approximately 700 yards. All of these shells had ricochetted, with the
exception of a six***th round which finally put the Mark V Panther out of
action." Sgt. Thomas P. Welborn, Germany's Panther tank, the quest for
combat superiority by Thomas L. Jentz
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Todd

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Todd » Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:00:00


Ok this is to do with the Windows game controller not the game itself. The
controller needs to be set up in the control panel as a wheel, not a
joystick. Not sure if this will help you but it worked for me
 Todd.

Frank Koeni

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Frank Koeni » Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I have had the exact same problem at Monza. I've noticed that the later I
brake, the worse the problem gets. For those of you who haven't had the
experience, it acts like the accelerator is stuck and you cannot brake in
time for the curve. I've ruined many a hot lap from this. I've also tried
turning off (and turning on) the Poll with interrupts parameter under Win95
game controller but this didn't help.

I'm wondering if this is a problem with the DirectX version of the game and
does not occur in the Voodoo version?

This bug makes outbraking all but impossible and is very frustrating.

Clark Arch

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Clark Arch » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Are you guys downshifting too fast and overreving the motor?
I've seen the symptom you describe at Monaco where I would
be ready to turn in and the car seems to be getting a great
push from the motor still.  Do you still have the problem if you
try it with auto gearbox?  

Clark

On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:16:17 -0800, "Frank Koenig"




>>One thing that I do find frustrating about F1-RS is the apparent deadzone
>>when braking and trying to steer.

>>I especially have problems with this on the fast tracks like Monza and
>>Hockenheim. More often than not, I miss a tight bend because the car just
>>completely fails to turn in. Fiddling with the settings to enduce more
>>oversteer show no result.

>>Does anyone know what can be done to remedy this?

>I have had the exact same problem at Monza. I've noticed that the later I
>brake, the worse the problem gets. For those of you who haven't had the
>experience, it acts like the accelerator is stuck and you cannot brake in
>time for the curve. I've ruined many a hot lap from this. I've also tried
>turning off (and turning on) the Poll with interrupts parameter under Win95
>game controller but this didn't help.

>I'm wondering if this is a problem with the DirectX version of the game and
>does not occur in the Voodoo version?

>This bug makes outbraking all but impossible and is very frustrating.

The Unexplaine

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by The Unexplaine » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Clark Archer heeft geschreven in bericht

It happens even when standing stil. Pull the joystick way back and also turn
left or right, there is no response from the wheels. I can however give full
throttle and the wheels DO turn left and right when I want to.

And don't you know, auto-gearbox is for sissies? :-)

"On 5 August 1944 in the vicinity of St. Sever Calvados, France, witnessed a
German Mark V Panther tank knock out three M4 and three M5 tanks during and
after being hit by at least fif*** rounds of 75mm APC from a distance of
approximately 700 yards. All of these shells had ricochetted, with the
exception of a six***th round which finally put the Mark V Panther out of
action." Sgt. Thomas P. Welborn, Germany's Panther tank, the quest for
combat superiority by Thomas L. Jentz
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Bert van Brake

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Bert van Brake » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00

This is realism, that's why they call it a simulator, right? The thing
is that you can't steer because you lock up the front tires, if you
brake earlier and with less brake force you'll see you'll be able to
steer.

good luck,

Hans




> >One thing that I do find frustrating about F1-RS is the apparent deadzone
> >when braking and trying to steer.

> >I especially have problems with this on the fast tracks like Monza and
> >Hockenheim. More often than not, I miss a tight bend because the car just
> >completely fails to turn in. Fiddling with the settings to enduce more
> >oversteer show no result.

> >Does anyone know what can be done to remedy this?

> I have had the exact same problem at Monza. I've noticed that the later I
> brake, the worse the problem gets. For those of you who haven't had the
> experience, it acts like the accelerator is stuck and you cannot brake in
> time for the curve. I've ruined many a hot lap from this. I've also tried
> turning off (and turning on) the Poll with interrupts parameter under Win95
> game controller but this didn't help.

> I'm wondering if this is a problem with the DirectX version of the game and
> does not occur in the Voodoo version?

> This bug makes outbraking all but impossible and is very frustrating.

Robert Sno

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Robert Sno » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Hi people

   I am using a Destiny Steering system & the car does not
turn until I have at least turned the wheel 45 deg. When going
straight I can move the wheel l/r upto 45deg & there is no
change to the driving line. As they have said this makes
cornering heder as I have to turn the wheel over 45deg to get any
movement.

I have the jstik sensitivity set to high  :(

  Rob

This definately ruins a great game

Jeroen van Engelenhove

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Jeroen van Engelenhove » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00


> This is realism, that's why they call it a simulator, right? The thing

> is that you can't steer because you lock up the front tires, if you
> brake earlier and with less brake force you'll see you'll be able to
> steer.

> good luck,

> Hans


> > >One thing that I do find frustrating about F1-RS is the apparent
> deadzone
> > >when braking and trying to steer.

> > >I especially have problems with this on the fast tracks like Monza
> and
> > >Hockenheim. More often than not, I miss a tight bend because the
> car just
> > >completely fails to turn in. Fiddling with the settings to enduce
> more
> > >oversteer show no result.

Put ABS on. Problem gone? Then you were indeed just locking up your
tyres (realistic, isn't it?).
Did you have ABS already on? Or doesn't it change anything? Well, then
you've really got problem...

Jeroen

Lomceva

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Lomceva » Sat, 10 Jan 1998 04:00:00

You'll have to reduce the wheel lock to maximise the resolution of the
steering potentiometer. Reduce the lock to say, 14 degrees, which should
work everywhere except at Monaco, of course. Also, increase the wheel
sensitivity to 100%.

Your dead zone should be gone now...

Stanley


> Hi people

>    I am using a Destiny Steering system & the car does not
> turn until I have at least turned the wheel 45 deg. When going
> straight I can move the wheel l/r upto 45deg & there is no
> change to the driving line. As they have said this makes
> cornering heder as I have to turn the wheel over 45deg to get any
> movement.

> I have the jstik sensitivity set to high  :(

>   Rob

> This definately ruins a great game

Neil Matth

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Neil Matth » Sat, 10 Jan 1998 04:00:00


>> Hi people

>>    I am using a Destiny Steering system & the car does not
>> turn until I have at least turned the wheel 45 deg. When going
>> straight I can move the wheel l/r upto 45deg & there is no
>> change to the driving line. As they have said this makes
>> cornering heder as I have to turn the wheel over 45deg to get any
>> movement.

Have you setup the wheel as a "race car controller"?
I found this helped me when I had a Destiny (before the pedals bust).

To do this you need to add a new "custom" controller
in the Settings->Control Panbel->Game Controllers

I seem to remember I set it as a 2-axis 4-button device
with the option "Is a race car controller".

I believe that this tells the driver you have linear rather
than logarithmic input potentiometers (or the other way around).
Anyway, worked for me.

Enjoy.
Neil

Foti

How to solve joystick dead-zone in F1 RS?

by Foti » Sat, 10 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Check out,  if the setting "Device is racecar-control"
(or similar, my system is in german) in the
calibration-utility of win95, is set.

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