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>> These were previously either posted or linked here. Try it in GTR and
>> GTL,
>> you'll be pleasantly surprised. Make a copy of your current .plr file
>> just
>> in case

> I couldn't find any .PLR file on my system.  I even searched all files
> for the text "FFB Device" and no luck.

> Where is this file on your system?  Did Logitech change this in ver 4.60
> of the drivers?

> Thank you.
> Henry.

>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Just thought I'd share this with you....It's the latest version of some
>> tweaks
>> made to the FF in GTR by one of the community's most respected FF gurus.
>> I've been very critical of the FF in GTR but these settings have
>> transformed
>> it for
>> me. They need to be inserted into your .PLR file replacing the existing
>> lines. Don't go into the force menu in the game after you've done this
>> or they will be reset to default. These should work well with 'MOMO
>> Force' and 'MOMO Racing' wheels - not sure about others YMMV.

>> Watch out for line wrapping - you may need to fix it up after pasting
>> into
>> your text editor.

>> FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel,
>> 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad.
>> FFB Effects Level="5" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects,
>> 1=Low,
>> 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom.
>> FFB Gain="0.95000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0 to
>> 1.0.
>> FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on throttle
>> axis,
>> 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
>> FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1 =
>> brake
>> effects on steering axis.
>> FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.07000" // Controls frequency of steering
>> vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
>> FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering
>> vibration
>> at 0mph (reference point).
>> FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude as a
>> function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
>> FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine,
>> 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
>> FFB steer force average weight="0.95000" // How much weight is given to
>> new
>> steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0).Lower values will
>> smooth
>> out the steering force, but will also add latency.
>> FFB steer force exponent="0.70000" // Steering force output
>> "sensitivity".
>> Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher sensitivity, greater than 1.0
>> =
>> lower sensitivity.
>> FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500 (-11500 if
>> controller pulls in the wrong direction).
>> FFB steer force output max="1.60000" // Maximum force output of steering
>> force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
>> FFB steer force grip weight="0.70000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended:
>> 0.4
>> to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when calculating steering
>> force.
>> FFB steer force grip factor="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0, recommended:
>> 0.2
>> to 0.6. How much of a factor the front wheel grip is on the steering
>> weight.
>> FFB steer update thresh="0.0001500000" // Amount of change required to

>> I just bought a Logitech Momo Racing since it seemed to get good reviews
>> and the force feedback was well recieved.  I considered the Logitech DFP
>> (meant for PS2 but supported with 4.60 drivers) but supposedly it has
>> lower accuracy.

>> I run Win2000 and tried the Momo Racing with Richard Burns Rally and
>> NFS:5 Porsche Unleased.  (I am attempting to get NFS:4 working and then
>> GT Legends).

>> With the MOMO Racing, I find the force feedback really difficult to get
>> tuned so it feels reasonable.  The wheel is either really difficult to
>> physically turn and gives marginal environmental feedback (braking
>> chatter, loosening up under drifting/acceleration, etc) or it's lightly
>> loaded and gives no real effects.  I have to note that in both games I
>> tried, the feeling when I went off the road was noticable, but other
>> than that, I felt the FF was more of a gimmick.

>> I've tried adjusting the settings, both in the Control Panel and in the
>> games and I just can't seem to get the right combination.  What settings
>> do you guys suggest?  Are there some third-party programs I should to
>> fine-tune the FF settings?  Anyone else use this wheel?  Am I the only
>> one that is disappointed by it?

>> I just really want the steering wheel to feel loose under
>> drifting/sliding (or air time), and for it to tighten during braking,
>> curves and to feel reasonably light during normal operation (like a real
>> car).  In real cars you don't have the wrench the wheel to make it turn
>> (even without power steering).

>> Sorry for the long rant, but I wanted to give details so I could get
>> some good feedback.

>> Thank you in advance.
>> Henry.

>> In a typical install it's \Program
>> files\rFactor\UserData\YOURNAME\YOURNAME.plr

> rFactor is game, correct?  I don't have this game, I am using Richard
> Burns Rally and Need for Speed 5.

> Is there any other way to tweak the wheel settings?

> Thanks,
> Henry.

>> These were previously either posted or linked here. Try it in GTR
>> and GTL, you'll be pleasantly surprised. Make a copy of your current
>> .plr file just in case

> I couldn't find any .PLR file on my system.  I even searched all files
> for the text "FFB Device" and no luck.

> Where is this file on your system?  Did Logitech change this in ver
> 4.60 of the drivers?

> Thank you.
> Henry.

>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Just thought I'd share this with you....It's the latest version of
>> some tweaks
>> made to the FF in GTR by one of the community's most respected FF
>> gurus. I've been very critical of the FF in GTR but these settings
>> have transformed it for
>> me. They need to be inserted into your .PLR file replacing the
>> existing lines. Don't go into the force menu in the game after
>> you've done this
>> or they will be reset to default. These should work well with 'MOMO
>> Force' and 'MOMO Racing' wheels - not sure about others YMMV.

>> Watch out for line wrapping - you may need to fix it up after
>> pasting into your text editor.

>> FFB Device Type="1" // Type of FFB controller: 0=none 1=wheel,
>> 2=stick/custom, 3=rumble pad.
>> FFB Effects Level="5" // Number of FFB effects to use: 0=No Effects,
>> 1=Low, 2=Medium, 3=High, 4=Full, 5=Custom.
>> FFB Gain="0.95000" // Strength of Force Feedback effects. Range 0.0
>> to 1.0. FFB Throttle FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Throttle effects on
>> throttle axis, 1 = throttle effects on steering axis.
>> FFB Brake FX on steer axis="1" // 0 = Brake effects on brake axis, 1
>> = brake effects on steering axis.
>> FFB steer vibe freq mult="0.07000" // Controls frequency of steering
>> vibration. Recommended: 0.5 to 1.0, 0.0 disables steering vibration.
>> FFB steer vibe zero magnitude="0.03500" // Magnitude of steering
>> vibration at 0mph (reference point).
>> FFB steer vibe slope="0.00000" // Slope of line defining magnitude
>> as a function of frequency (used with FFB steer vibe zero magnitude).
>> FFB steer vibe wave type="0" // Type of wave to use for vibe: 0=Sine,
>> 1=Square, 2=Triangle, 3=Sawtooth up, 4=Sawtooth down.
>> FFB steer force average weight="0.95000" // How much weight is given
>> to new steering force calculations each frame (0.01 - 1.0).Lower
>> values will smooth out the steering force, but will also add latency.
>> FFB steer force exponent="0.70000" // Steering force output
>> "sensitivity". Range 0.0 to infinity. 0.0 to 1.0 = higher
>> sensitivity, greater than 1.0 = lower sensitivity.
>> FFB steer force input max="-11500.00000" // Recommended: 11500
>> (-11500 if controller pulls in the wrong direction).
>> FFB steer force output max="1.60000" // Maximum force output of
>> steering force, recommendation 0.8 to 2.0
>> FFB steer force grip weight="0.70000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0,
>> recommended: 0.4 to 0.9. How much weight is given to tire grip when
>> calculating steering force.
>> FFB steer force grip factor="0.60000" // Range 0.0 to 1.0,
>> recommended: 0.2 to 0.6. How much of a factor the front wheel grip
>> is on the steering weight. FFB steer update thresh="0.0001500000" //
>> Amount of change required to