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NASCAR engine sounds

Willard VanderPloe

NASCAR engine sounds

by Willard VanderPloe » Wed, 09 May 2001 02:05:21

Greetings RAS'ers

I'm wondering if anyone here has any REAL sound samples of a NASCAR engine
or stock car engine.  I've a friend seeking to create some new sounds for
N4.  He's very capable, but needs a good base to work from.

I seem to recall an engine sound recorded at Petty Enterprises out there
(for N3 maybe??) but can't find it.


a url.

Thanks!

Willard.

Tom Pabs

NASCAR engine sounds

by Tom Pabs » Wed, 09 May 2001 07:44:40

Willard...

The N4 sound code scaling program doesn't use "real-life" engine sound
samples.........they are short length, looped .wav files that in their raw
form, sound nothing like a real engine (of any kind).....N4 actually uses 4
or 5 different .wav file samples to produce the engine sounds you hear in
the sim***pit...and in the replays.  Real-life WC car engines sounds are
of little or no value, except that they would help in determining what a WC
car sounds like.....and your "friend" is I'm sure.....already aware of that
(or he's not so "capable" as you have described him....lol...).

I have produced several sets of more realistic WC engines (and in-car sound
effects) for N4.  But, for the time being, I'm not distributing them
publicly......to anyone outside of the Pabst-Racing "Test Driver" group of
PR employee/subs.  I also created the engine sounds (under sub-contract
work) for Ratbag's recently released, Dirt Track Racing - Sprint
Cars.....and for the, about-to-be-released, Leadfoot Stadium Truck Racing
sim, also by Ratbag.  I tell you this not to impress you.......but only to
point out that I do have some experience producing racing sim engine
sounds.....and I would point out to you that this "process" is much less of
a "science" than it is an "art form."  There are several very talented
engine sound programmers/creators within the racing sim community.  I think
they would agree with this statement.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news........

Tom Pabst

Willard VanderPloe

NASCAR engine sounds

by Willard VanderPloe » Wed, 09 May 2001 08:40:21

Hi Tom;

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, indeed, I'm aware of the structure of N4's engine sounds.  My buddy and
I have gone thru several revisions that are quite good.  We seek a sound
with "grunt" if you will - a combination that's a bit more throaty and
closer to reality.  We thought a real sound might be a good starting point
or basis point, but are unable to find any samples on the net.

The problem with our efforts to date is that at higher rpm's the engine_on
sound becomes a bit "scratchy" sounding in my opinion.  Otherwise, the
soundset my buddy put together is quite good I think.

I've downloaded an alternate sound set from bhmotorsports I think - and it's
not bad, but is a bit "thin" for my liking.  I do understand that creating
such a soundset is indeed an art - one requiring lots of trial and error.

I hope at some point you'll share your work!

Warm regards,

Willard.


J. Todd Wass

NASCAR engine sounds

by J. Todd Wass » Wed, 09 May 2001 09:28:06

  Tom,

  What do you think about playing intake and exhaust pressure profiles from a
computer simulated engine through DirectSound?  Would it sound anything like a
real engine, or would it sound mechanical and "computery"?

  Thanks

Todd Wasson
---
Performance Simulations
Drag Racing and Top Speed Prediction
Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.Com

ymenar

NASCAR engine sounds

by ymenar » Wed, 09 May 2001 23:06:55


/me is laughing out loud.

Sorry Tom, but your post just made you look like Don Wilshe.  ;-/

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Andre Warrin

NASCAR engine sounds

by Andre Warrin » Wed, 09 May 2001 23:14:04




>> to anyone outside of the Pabst-Racing "Test Driver" group of
>> PR employee/subs.

>/me is laughing out loud.

>Sorry Tom, but your post just made you look like Don Wilshe.  ;-/

That was plain mean Ym..

Andre

Thom j

NASCAR engine sounds

by Thom j » Thu, 10 May 2001 03:20:34

ymenard ur soooooo bad.. shame on u'all... <bfg>



| > to anyone outside of the Pabst-Racing "Test Driver" group of
| > PR employee/subs.
|
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| /me is laughing out loud.
|
|
| Sorry Tom, but your post just made you look like Don Wilshe.  ;-/
|
|
|
|
|
| --
| -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
| -- May the Downforce be with you...
| -- http://www.ymenard.com/
| -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
| Corporation - helping America into the New World...
|
|
|

ymenar

NASCAR engine sounds

by ymenar » Thu, 10 May 2001 03:27:25


> ymenard ur soooooo bad.. shame on u'all... <bfg>

Ok Andre and Thom sorry for that, I'll slap myself and will be forced to a
week of SOS37   ;-)

<slaps himself>

/me loads SOS37

"aahhhhh!!!! oh the humanity! Why is Avus full of turns? lol"

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Thom j

NASCAR engine sounds

by Thom j » Thu, 10 May 2001 04:32:50

I know you were only funnin'..<g> {Cant speak for Andre tho'..lol}



| > ymenard ur soooooo bad.. shame on u'all... <bfg>
|
| Ok Andre and Thom sorry for that, I'll slap myself and will be forced to a
| week of SOS37   ;-)
|
| <slaps himself>
|
| /me loads SOS37
|
| "aahhhhh!!!! oh the humanity! Why is Avus full of turns? lol"

Dave Henri

NASCAR engine sounds

by Dave Henri » Thu, 10 May 2001 08:49:39

  yMeanard before a week of SOS...
blah blah blah..
yMeanard AFTER a week of SOS
blah blah blah...
  Somebody STOP him quick..!!!
:)
dave henrie
"ymenard" <yves.
Andre Warrin

NASCAR engine sounds

by Andre Warrin » Thu, 10 May 2001 17:17:00



Comparing someone to Don Wilshe is NOT funny!
:)

Andre

Thom j

NASCAR engine sounds

by Thom j » Fri, 11 May 2001 04:28:30

Ooops I am busted I guess?? <g>


| Comparing someone to Don Wilshe is NOT funny!
| :)
| Andre


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