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Learning to drive in America!

Zardo

Learning to drive in America!

by Zardo » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 06:23:05



> :) Although I hear the speed limits are far slower in the states.

I'm not sure what the speed limit is in the U.S. now.  Canada (depending on
province) is 100km/h on highways, 50km/h city streets (sometimes 60), 80km/h
country roads. But most do 10-20km/h above posted limit. I think US raised
it again, it was low for a long time due to the energy crisis in the '70's.
They just never raised it after the crisis was over.
Liddle Fees

Learning to drive in America!

by Liddle Fees » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 07:26:30




> > [snip]
> > Thanks for your comments - very helpful (same to everyone else whom I
> > haven't replied to yet!)

> > > FWIW, I'm planning on coming to the UK the first week of April to
attend
> > > a convention in the Bristol, area. I'm scared shitless at the thought
of
> > > driving a car out of Gatwick or Heathrow. (My experiences at Chicago's
> > > O'Hare airport is the primary reason for my fears. I'll be flying out
of
> > > Milwaukee this time.) I guess I'll just drive like I'm at
Silverstone...
> > > isn't that an old airport?

> > Silverstone? Not sure. Driving a car out of Heathrow is considerably
easier
> > than driving out of Gatwick, since with Gatwick - it is far easier to
end up
> > in London or Brighton if you miss the turning for the M25.

> > The actual 'driving' is pretty easy. The roads are wide (ish) and well
> > marked. Getting in and out of the airport is REALLY SIMPLE, especially
for
> > Heathrow.

> > Gatwick again, just be careful when you come out you are in the right
lane
> > for the way you want to go (this is signposted at least twice, and
written
> > on the road too!) If you get the wrong one, you can turn round at the
next
> > junction anyway.

> Damn...I'm flying into Gatwick. Guess I'll have to take my own advice
> and know where I'm going and drive alert.

Yes, as what Pat said is true - you'll be fine. Gatwick is a tad harder, but
nothing to worry about. When you come out of Gatwick you may be faced with 4
or 2 lane motorways (fast roads). Everyone in England speeds by 10% or so,
but I should stick to the limits as close as you can, and keep to the left.
Although the right hand lane is strictly for overtaking you usually just get
people crusing at 80-90 down there anyway.

All you should practice is the point at which you come up to a 'slip road'
which is joining your motorway. If this is the case, check your blind spot
(over your right shoulder) and switch to the right hand lane to allow people
joining the motorway to join safely.

It's quite easy really. Play some of your favourite music and have fun!

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Liddle Fees

Learning to drive in America!

by Liddle Fees » Tue, 05 Feb 2002 07:27:59

Perfect, thanks!

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Steve Garrot

Learning to drive in America!

by Steve Garrot » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 06:52:24

Ok, guys he is going to San Diego! The area alone will make you happy
and glad to be alive. I loved the place when I visited.

I assUme you will be renting a car, it will be an automatic, so you
will not have to worry about shifting. Also many rental cars in the US
have these Day Time Running Lights, but there is no real standard on
the things so be sure to understand the lights on the car you get.
When I was there I got a Chevy Malibu (upgrade to mid-class, yeah
right!) and it had the lights on all the time no matter how the switch
was. I also paid the $9/day for the liabiliaty insurance, this pays
your insurance liability if you have an acident. It was nice to be
able to close my eyes and floor it, to get on to the highway! Just
kidding :-)

I would say just do as the flow of traffic does, if they all do it,
then it should be okay. I would adjust my speed to the speed that
traffic was doing, ignore the speed limit unless that is what the
majority of other cars are doing. I took my GPS, a good map and my
wife and I were fine.

All of the major trafic signs are the same, just have unneeded words
on them.

Be sure to learn Spanish before you go. :-0

SLG


>Hi all, hope this is the right froup to ask :)

>I'm getting married this year, and myself and my fiance are honeymooning in
>San Diego, California. We are both from England (finance was originally
>from Canada), but are a wee bit anxious about driving in the 'states.

>Does anyone know of any simulation which would be reasonable for driving
>around the streets of a californian city? I've tried downloading Driver (1)
>for the PC, but for some reason the controls (I have USB keyboard & mouse)
>are erratic - they keep 'sticking', and 'lagging'... odd behaviour. Apart
>from that - the LA driving in "Driver" is perfect :)

>Does anyone know of a replacement sim for US (right hand side of the road)
>driving? Preferably one with traffic lights, and LA or San Diego maps would
>be a bonus!

>Many thanks in advance,

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(All spelling errors are intentional and are there to show new
and improved ways of spelling old words. Grammatical errors are
due to too many English classes/teachers)
Eldre

Learning to drive in America!

by Eldre » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:54:04


writes:




>> writes:
>> The 401 going to Toronto?  I've driven that a few times - I didn't think
>it was
>> that bad...

>Through TO during rush hour? It's horrendous.

Yeah, I'd forgotten about that...

Nah - that's a bit much.<g>  But if the speed limit is 70, and a left lane hog
is doing 65, I'm going to go around him.

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Eldre

Learning to drive in America!

by Eldre » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:54:04



>The 401 near Toronto is pretty much a constant jam-up, all day long.  Yes,
>there is too much traffic caused by unending suburban sprawl, but at least
>half of the problem is caused by ignorance of the rules of the road and
>ignorance toward fellow drivers.

I'd forgotten about the traffic jams.  I've gotten into town at like 1 in the
morning, and STILL hit a ton of traffic.  Don't you guys ever SLEEP?!? :-)
Going by the airport and coming into town are the worst - the rest of the trip
usually isn't too bad.

I've never been to Europe, and won't be able to go anytime soon.  What's the
Germany driving test?  Got a link that describes it in English?  Now I'm
curious...

Eldred
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Uncle Feste

Learning to drive in America!

by Uncle Feste » Wed, 06 Feb 2002 22:37:30


> >Yea, that's why you are defending passing on the right. I bet you even drive
> >up on the shoulder to get by someone on the right.:-)

> Nah - that's a bit much.<g>  But if the speed limit is 70, and a left lane hog
> is doing 65, I'm going to go around him.

DRAFT, son, DRAFT!!

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Gary Stephenso

Learning to drive in America!

by Gary Stephenso » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 01:12:31


> I've never been to Europe, and won't be able to go anytime soon.  What's the
> Germany driving test?  Got a link that describes it in English?  Now I'm
> curious...

I believe that to pass the German driving test you have to do a sub 8:00
minute lap at the Ring :-)

Sorry...I couldn't help myself.

If I can get my cousin to answer his emails, I'll ask him. (He lives
there.)

Gary Stephenson

Eldre

Learning to drive in America!

by Eldre » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 04:34:14


writes:


>> I've never been to Europe, and won't be able to go anytime soon.  What's
>the
>> Germany driving test?  Got a link that describes it in English?  Now I'm
>> curious...

>I believe that to pass the German driving test you have to do a sub 8:00
>minute lap at the Ring :-)

>Sorry...I couldn't help myself.

/me whacks Gary with a fish...

Anybody else have any info? :-)

Eldred
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Liddle Fees

Learning to drive in America!

by Liddle Fees » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 09:04:25


> Ok, guys he is going to San Diego! The area alone will make you happy
> and glad to be alive. I loved the place when I visited.

Sounds good! :)

Yes, we'll be renting, and I guess it'll be an automatic.

What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate at
night?

> , but there is no real standard on
> the things so be sure to understand the lights on the car you get.
> When I was there I got a Chevy Malibu (upgrade to mid-class, yeah
> right!) and it had the lights on all the time no matter how the switch
> was. I also paid the $9/day for the liabiliaty insurance, this pays
> your insurance liability if you have an acident. It was nice to be
> able to close my eyes and floor it, to get on to the highway! Just
> kidding :-)


Good good, that's put me at ease a tad.

Spanish?!

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Zardo

Learning to drive in America!

by Zardo » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 19:46:23

On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:04:25 -0000, "Liddle Feesh"


>What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate at
>night?

No, that is a safey feature where the lights run during the daytime
too.
Uncle Feste

Learning to drive in America!

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 07 Feb 2002 22:39:01


> What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate at
> night?

The headlamps operate anytime the ignition is in the on position.

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Liddle Fees

Learning to drive in America!

by Liddle Fees » Fri, 08 Feb 2002 03:16:14


> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:04:25 -0000, "Liddle Feesh"

> >What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate
at
> >night?


during the day?"

Safety feature = waste of battery power.

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Rob Adam

Learning to drive in America!

by Rob Adam » Fri, 08 Feb 2002 03:22:27


> > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:04:25 -0000, "Liddle Feesh"

> > >What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate
> at
> > >night?
> > No, that is a safey feature where the lights run during the daytime
> > too.

> Safety feature = waste of battery power.

Maybe if you don't have an alternator, yeah. My Civic had daytime running
lights and the battery lasted for 10 years. For all I know it's still
going - I sold the car last year, with the original battery still in it.
Jonny Hodgso

Learning to drive in America!

by Jonny Hodgso » Fri, 08 Feb 2002 03:54:43


> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 00:04:25 -0000, "Liddle Feesh"

> >What is "Day Time Running Lights"? Is that where the headlights operate at
> >night?

> No, that is a safey feature where the lights run during the daytime
> too.

or possibly a "safety" "feature", if you follow rec.autos.driving
and the incessant complaints there about DRLs ;-)

Jonny


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