No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
the SW software, it pull left there too.
I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
Any suggestions?
Mike
> No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
> left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
> several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
> N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
> the SW software, it pull left there too.
> I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
> microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
> Any suggestions?
> Mike
> > No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
> > left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
> > several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
> > N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
> > the SW software, it pull left there too.
> > I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
> > microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
> > Any suggestions?
> > Mike
> No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
> left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
> several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
> N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
> the SW software, it pull left there too.
> I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
> microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
> Any suggestions?
Some people hate it, some people accept it in the name of realism. Your
choice.
~daxe
Still a bit more real-life info on this one from an open-wheel perspective;
Scott Goodyear on his IRL car's behavior at Disney -
"You are physically holding the car straight on the straightaway - if you
took you hands off the wheel it would turn left and go down to the infield.
The faster you go, the more downforce the car makes and the more and more
effort it takes to keep it going straight. It is just about at its maximum
load just as you are ready to turn into the turn."
More good stuff at:
http://www.itfl.co.uk/racetech/issue29/Rpmscott.htm
Cheers,
Steve B.
>Any suggestions?
>> No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
>> left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
>> several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
>> N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
>> the SW software, it pull left there too.
>> I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
>> microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
>> Any suggestions?
>Real Winston cup cars pull to the left, too. Thats why the sim does it.
>There's nothing wrong with your calibration.
>Some people hate it, some people accept it in the name of realism. Your
>choice.
>~daxe
Even some long-time Sim Racers have, and do, complain about this.
Having an annoyance for the sake of realism doesn't always transpire to a
Simulation well.
The folks at MGI listened, and gave us a trim tab to offset it. Papyrus
needs to do the same.
You should also remember that not everyone uses the same controller. Those
with FF wheels do not notice it as much because when FF is enabled, the
return-to-center spring simulation is generally disabled and wheel
positioning is controlled by the FF effects.
Those without FF wheels, or those with FF wheels that don't like to use FF
in some games (I don't like it in Nascar games, but love it in GPL and other
road course games) are seriously affected by this.
The stronger the return-to-center characteristics of the wheel, the worse it
will be.
The MS SideWinder Non-FF is one of the worse. It has a very, very
discernable return-to-center spring and a rather obtrusive notch at dead
center.
Before making comments like "Go back to N3", remember that not everyone is
using the same equipment, and Papy needs to put some options in place to
help everyone enjoy N4.
-Larry
> > No matter what track I'm on, or what basic setup I use, my car pulls
> > left. I have to turn right to keep the car straight. I've tried
> > several variations of calibration, including manual adjustments in the
> > N4 options panel, but nothing seems to help much. When I test using
> > the SW software, it pull left there too.
> > I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
> > microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
> > Any suggestions?
> > Mike
-Larry
> Even some long-time Sim Racers have, and do, complain about this.
> Having an annoyance for the sake of realism doesn't always transpire to a
> Simulation well.
> The folks at MGI listened, and gave us a trim tab to offset it. Papyrus
> needs to do the same.
> You should also remember that not everyone uses the same controller.
Those
> with FF wheels do not notice it as much because when FF is enabled, the
> return-to-center spring simulation is generally disabled and wheel
> positioning is controlled by the FF effects.
> Those without FF wheels, or those with FF wheels that don't like to use FF
> in some games (I don't like it in Nascar games, but love it in GPL and
other
> road course games) are seriously affected by this.
> The stronger the return-to-center characteristics of the wheel, the worse
it
> will be.
> The MS SideWinder Non-FF is one of the worse. It has a very, very
> discernable return-to-center spring and a rather obtrusive notch at dead
> center.
> Before making comments like "Go back to N3", remember that not everyone is
> using the same equipment, and Papy needs to put some options in place to
> help everyone enjoy N4.
> -Larry
> > it is SUPPOSED to pull left...your car is designed
> > to make speed in the corners...the tracks, even on the
> > straights, are banked(tilted) so combine the banking with a setup that
is
> > designed to turn left and YES! your car will pull left...That is
> > real...that is how it should be...try a road course and your pull will
> > disappear due to the setup that doesn't need to constantly turn a car
> left.
> > Many folks have complained about that feature..the easiest cure for
> folks
> > who just can't get used to the reality of N4 is reboot N3.
> > dave henrie
Okay ... I didn't make myself clear. When I release the wheel to
straight up 12:00, my car is huntin' for an RV in the infield to smash
into. I doubt that the WC cars take left that hard, so I don't agree
with the assesment about realism.
At any rate, I think I found the solution to the problem in my SW
control panel. If I set the wheel to NFS III defaults, there is much
less of a pull. It's still there, but not near as bad.
Thanks!
>>I can't find a fix in the N4 or SW manuals or the
>>microsoft.com/sidewinder/ site.
>>Any suggestions?
>The fix is in the options screen. Select "arcade" mode.
