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by **Cheng Chi San** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Hello,

There are posts that refer cars in GPL as Honda and Cooper that seems
to be another name, can anyone tell me what they suppose to be?

Griffin.

by **geps** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Honda=Murasama
Cooper=Coventry

geps.

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by **Kurt Steinboc** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

>> Hello,

>> There are posts that refer cars in GPL as Honda and Cooper that seems
>> to be another name, can anyone tell me what they suppose to be?

>Honda=Murasama
>Cooper=Coventry

>geps.

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Many of the GPL sites on the web have patches that allow you to change
Coventry and Murasama to Cooper and Honda. If I remember correctly,
licensing issues precluded using the real names.

Are you having fun?

Kurt

by **Johan Foedere** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Question: Are Coventry and Murasama the names of where the car factories
were?

// Johan

by **Stefan Magnusso** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Have no idea about the japanese rice burner, but according to
http://members.tripod.com/Corktree/Case_History.html
the Cooper Car Company Ltd had their home in
- Surbiton, Surrey (or Greater London), 1950-1965 (from 1949 according
to other sources)
- Byfleet, Surrey 1966-1969
i.e. nowhere near Coventry, West Midlands, but perhaps there are some
other Town/City/Place named Coventry, lesser known to a non-brit, which
Charles and John Cooper are connected to.

(http://www.krbaker.demon.co.uk/britcars/index.html
is quite interesting if you are into british cars.)

Stefan

> Question: Are Coventry and Murasama the names of where the car factories
> were?

> // Johan

> > Honda=Murasama
> > Cooper=Coventry

by **Paul Gardne** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I think the Coventry probably refers to the Coventry Climax engine which was
fitted to some cars of this era, not sure if the Cooper had one without
looking it up. I also believe that Cooper are in the south of England may be
Sussex or Hampshire.

Could be wrong on both counts though:-)

Paul

by **Stephen Barnet** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I think Cooper's came from Surbiton. Can't hazard a guess about Honda.
Steve

>Question: Are Coventry and Murasama the names of where the car factories
>were?

>// Johan

>> Honda=Murasama
>> Cooper=Coventry

by **Mark Seer** » Wed, 22 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Coventry-Climax engines........

MS

> Have no idea about the japanese rice burner, but according to
> http://members.tripod.com/Corktree/Case_History.html
> the Cooper Car Company Ltd had their home in
> - Surbiton, Surrey (or Greater London), 1950-1965 (from 1949 according
> to other sources)
> - Byfleet, Surrey 1966-1969
> i.e. nowhere near Coventry, West Midlands, but perhaps there are some
> other Town/City/Place named Coventry, lesser known to a non-brit, which
> Charles and John Cooper are connected to.

> (http://www.krbaker.demon.co.uk/britcars/index.html
> is quite interesting if you are into british cars.)

> Stefan

> > Question: Are Coventry and Murasama the names of where the car factories
> > were?

> > // Johan

> > > Honda=Murasama
> > > Cooper=Coventry

by **Leaky_Valv** » Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:00:00

No.
They really have no connection with the real teams.

> Question: Are Coventry and Murasama the names of where the car factories
> were?

> // Johan

> > Honda=Murasama
> > Cooper=Coventry

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by **Leaky_Valv** » Thu, 23 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Murasama = Honda
Coventry = Cooper

> Hello,

> There are posts that refer cars in GPL as Honda and Cooper that seems
> to be another name, can anyone tell me what they suppose to be?

> Griffin.

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by **parche** » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I'm fairly sure you'll find that Honda didn't come from Surbiton as well ;>0

by **Stephen Barnet** » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

No, they came from Motegi, thats not in Surbiton.
Steve

>> I think Cooper's came from Surbiton. Can't hazard a guess about Honda.
>> Steve

>I'm fairly sure you'll find that Honda didn't come from Surbiton as well
;>0

by **Tony Whitle** » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

You are certainly right about the Coventry Climax engine. It had ruled the
1.5 litre class in the years before (Cooper, Lotus and BRM used it amongst
others) and was basically bored and stroked for the 3 litre formula - off
the top of my head I think it could only be stretched to 2.5 litres. No one
at the time thought the 3 litre formula would be a success and as a result
there were no engines available at the start of the year and so some teams
were still running 1.5 litres.

The engine itself has a fascinating history - Coventry Climax made engines
for fire engine water pumps and someone found out (how, I can't imagine)
that the engine would make an excellent race engine. A version of the engine
later made its way into a mainstream road car (the Hillman Imp - a rear
engined competitor for the Mini) but suffered from poor reliability.

Tony Whitley
Born and bred in Coventry when it was THE motor town. Nowadays all the
factories have been replaced by MuckDonald's, supermarkets and houses.

by **David Er** » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

My workplace actually has a Coventry Climax engine in its original fire pump
form (ex Canadian Armed Forces unit). Its a tidy little package and makes a
fantastic sound when you rev it. Its very easy tosee why it was developed
into a race winner since it is lightweight and small in external dimension.
The fire pump engine is a SOHC version using some kind of single updraft
carb on a log manifold. It revs very quickly for an engine of the 1950s.

David

by **David Er** » Fri, 24 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Ah well I rather suspected as much . Still it is interesting to actually see
the sort of engineering that the C-C company was capable of. The fire pump
four really is a nice bit of engineering which shows up very well versus
other 1950's era powerplants that I have seen. If it is not the GP engine
itself it is at least the Grandfather or Great-Uncle-by- marriage of the GP
engine. :) I still love the raw sound it makes.

Best regards
David

> Apart from the overhead cam arrangement and the script on the cam-cover,
there
> is very little that is the same between this engine and the racing
versions of
> the famed CC 4-cylinder. In fact, I don't think that anything of
importance is
> actually interchangeable, David.

> > My workplace actually has a Coventry Climax engine in its original fire
pump
> > form (ex Canadian Armed Forces unit). Its a tidy little package and
makes a
> > fantastic sound when you rev it. Its very easy tosee why it was
developed
> > into a race winner since it is lightweight and small in external
dimension.
> > The fire pump engine is a SOHC version using some kind of single updraft
> > carb on a log manifold. It revs very quickly for an engine of the 1950s.

> > David

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