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That's the problem. It's not the correct feeling at all. I do not have F1
experience (I mean <g>), but I have experience in real life racing. I have
open-wheel experience. A car is a car is a car. F1's have more HP, better
aerodynamics and overall best power/weight ratio, but there is stuff that is
easy to understand how it handles. The snap oversteering is incredible bad,
with several canned effects with the weight shifting under power/braking.
Look at real life F1, look closely and try to feel the car when they are
in-car, and compare it to watching an AI in-car in MGPRS2.
I agree with that. The cars look good. Very good indeed. Much better
polygon count.
Ah you see ? That's just a bad argument. "I" think that it's a great track,
"you" think it's not. But <g> don't try to say that what Im saying is
non-sense. No way, it's just a different argument.
Portugal is a GREAT track. Fast corners, nice chicanes, great places to
past. I would take it anyday instead of that boring A1-Ring.
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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Actually the physics are quite good, maybe not outstanding as in GPL, but
they are good.
I have downloaded the files for all the cars and tracks from the web. With
those files, MGPRS2 is the best looking "current" F1 sim. Ubisoft made it
easy for people to update the game that way.
Why?
But, they also re-did Melbourne.
Accurate by who's standards? For me they are the most accurate "current" F1
simulators.
How are you rating the physics in MGPRS2? If you watch the races, and then
play MGPRS2, it feels pretty acturate to me. I'm no race car driver, but it
seems pretty close to what I would expect a F1 car to feel like.
What about the chrome effect on the cars? What about the wheels? Also, I'm
not sure about this, but the cars also look like they have a higher polygon
count in MGPRS2, like I said, I'm not sure, but the cars do look better in
MGPRS2 than in F1RS.
It didn't need greatly updated graphics, F1RS is still a very pretty game.
And yes updated graphics in my book means higher resolutions.
Give it a rest, the Portugal track wasn't great any way.
> >Personally I would be perfectly happy if GP3 came out with NO graphical changes
> >whatsoever.. as long as the extra computer power available was used to: improve
> >the physics; improve the AI (changes in team-work over a season, for example);
> >more random and varied breakdowns/accidents (on the grid, in the pits, etc.);
> >variable weather; grease/debris on track; tear-offs/pit communications; proper
> >flags (i.e. black/blue!)... In other words.. anything which will actually
> >increase the realism of the so-called simulation.
> I absolutely disagree. Superb graphics are an essential feature of any
> true simulation and absolutely vital for the visual *realism*. This
> ranges from such simple things as debris on the track to the
> flagwaving track steward and much more importantly the driving view &
> range. And btw, it's actually one of the reasons why GP2 was an
> immediate success, back in 95/96 it simply blew everything away with
> it's top-notch graphics.
> PS: I don't know what kind of system you have but I cannot really find
> much 'extra computer power' when playing GP2 ...
> --Tel
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> Load Gp2. Take every Fxx option off. Look at how great the physics are for
> modeling the Formula 1's of that year. Ubisoft's game engine is not the
> best, (but still not the worst).
...GP2 also lacks Force Feedback! :+)
you are right, it's not the best ever made...but best overall (graphics,
weather, AI, Multiplayer...) for any modern F1 sims.
I sure hope GP3 gets out...it will surely intensify the competition, and in the
end we (the simmers) would be the real winners...let's face it, we still need a
lot more in any modern F1 sim.
I know...and I am here to exchange coherent arguements. :+)
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% Does it matter? GP2s physics are better so that doesn't say much for
% Ubisoft's effort. If they wanted to make an arcady racer...they succeeded.
I guess that is up to personal taste. I personally couldn't say that
GP2's physics were better than F1RS/MGPRS. They were just different.
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Agree, but I still want sound in replay in MGPRS2 ;-)
LOL !
I would like to see more and more companies head into the Formula 1 sims.
Not arcade games. The more the better. Competition makes better software,
and makes us more happy. Gp3 will push the current limits hopefully, as for
the next Ubisoft title (how will they name it this time ? MGPRS3 ;-) ).
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"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."
Michael, I don't even play Gp2 much anymore with the NROS. I have the same
time in both Gp2 and F1RS/MGPRS2. Im not bashing Ubisoft because of what
Geoff Crammond did. That would be hypocrite from myself. Here I compared
both titles, that doesn't mean I think Gp2 is perfect, far away from that.
Im not even good in Gp2 !!! (I have difficulties adjusting, since I got way
much more time in Icr2 and the whole driving physics difference between both
titles).
I don't like some aspects of how Ubisoft is doing their titles, the way they
develop their titles, the way they re-use their game engine (same can be
said for other companies), how they work with their employees, etc... I
could expand on them if you want, but they are not the only ones who are
like that.
I agree. No title is perfect, and it's up to us to advice people of the
problems they have. GPL lacks in some gameplay, some physic problems, some
sound problems, etc... Gp2 lacks in 3d acceleration, some physic problems,
some gameplay, sound, etc.. MGPRS2 (I eliminate F1RS) lacks in some physic
problems, sound, some gameplay, etc..
So read both 3description, they all have similar problems. Gameplay,
physics, sound, etc.. ;)
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>LOL !
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