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RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:42:37

True he was winking out and hopping around quite a bit. We may even have
"warp touched" at one point. If we did I'm sorry.

You're welcome. I was trying to do a no-stopper (possible if one can run in
clean air a lot), so I couldn't risk locking up a wheel trying to keep you
behind.  The tyres had lost their edge by then and eventhough I was lapping
8/10ths to a second quicker than while I was bottled up behind you, you
still caught up, so I chose minimum time loss and let you back around. This
time around you were able to stay ahead and I ended up having to pit anyway
so no harm no foul.

I would have gained some time (and you too, possibly) if you'd let me around
immediately, but probably not enough to have had a shot at Neil in the end.

Jan.
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Tim Paulli

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Tim Paulli » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:44:26

I've just joined the "no yellow flags" group after todays race.  Hell of
alot easier to fit it into my schedule when a great race like that happens!

Tim


> :)

> Like I said, no yellows.

> gurb





> > > Good race. No yellows. Congrats to Michael, who posted the some speeds
> > with
> > > the fast setup that I would have thought impossible.

> > > grub

> > Yes, good race. But I think yellows were turned off.

> > bluestringer

Tim Paulli

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Tim Paulli » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:48:13


no big deal Steve,  I got into the turn a little too hot anyway<g>

Apologies to whoever I hit while turning around.

Tim

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Tim Paulli

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Tim Paulli » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 20:50:45




> > Thanks John. That is something I did not know. I think the same thing
> > screwed up another race for me also. Oh well, the race was fun while it
> > lasted for me.

> > Spark

> <SNIP>
> Speeding in pit lane should be a drive through, unsafe is a stop and go.
> Spotter only tells you once, I learned the hardway too.  :-(

> Sean  #12

I did a "stop and go" for my penalty and lost a lap:-(

Tim

Tim Paulli

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Tim Paulli » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 21:30:59

yeah my wife's computer was on the network,  had her shut it off all was
well.  (btw that's what happened at Daytona)

Tim

bluestringe

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by bluestringe » Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:22:49




> > Well, I enjoyed the first race with you guys.  Hope I wasn't too much of
a
> > moving road block for you.  I tried to give room when it was safe to do
> so.
> > Started off one lap down.  Had do disconnect(for the first time ever
> online,
> > I was getting screen lockups:o(   )  and by the time I got back in the
> start
> > sequence had started and had to start from pit lane.
> > Sorry again to Tim (car#2).  My wife forgot it was my first race with
you
> > guys and didn't tell my 4 year old kid to stay away from the 'puter
room.
> I
> > was going to give you room, but my kid grabbed my arm and turned me into
> > you.

> > Steve

> no big deal Steve,  I got into the turn a little too hot anyway<g>

> Apologies to whoever I hit while turning around.

> Tim

That was me. No big deal, I should have went in a little higher.

bluestringer

Larr

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:20:21

Did you get a drive thru, or a stop & go?

I suspect you got a drive-thru.

If you actually stop when you have a drive-thru penalty, it won't count :(

I got bit by this earlier in the year.

-Larry


Larr

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:25:55

Sean,

Here's a tip for you.  Try this.

First, you may be slowing down _too_ much.  That's bad, because it takes air
off the rear spoiler.

Practice with the racing line.  The markers are decent for this track.

Before you let up on the gas for the corner, pre-load the brakes just a
_tad_.  This may help you keep the car straight.  NOTE - I _think_ this
applies at Michigan.  I haven't started practice there yet, but this trick
helps a ton at places like Richmond, and Richmond is basically a troll-sized
Michigan :)

Also, you don't have to let up on the gas much here.  Just 1/4 throttle or
so.

Letting up too much, going in too slow, etc... will get you into worse
trouble here than going in to hot.  You can deal with too hot as you'll just
wash up a bit.

Start off by purposely going in too hot, then back off a little more each
time until you find just the right amount.  Of course, this will change as
your tires wear and the fuel burns off as the car will become tighter,
especially off the corners.

Finally, you get back into the gas pretty early here.  Don't just floor it.
Feather the gas in slowly.  You want to be back at full throttle just as the
car is pointing straight again.

Any combination of the above or all will help.

-Larry






> > >Speeding in pit lane should be a drive through, unsafe is a stop and
go.
> > >Spotter only tells you once, I learned the hardway too.  :-(

> > Hmm...  I've gotten a speeding penalty before, and it was a stop and
go...

> > Eldred
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> > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> I think that has to do with speeding entering or exiting.  I tend to speed
> entering.

> Michigan is loosey Goosey,  I can run around good till I want to try to
pass
> someone, then I seem to loose my arc and spin, over and over.  I have a
week
> to figure this out though.

> Sean

Larr

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 00:44:33

No problem :)  The start of that happened in front of us.  I don't know
whether it started with the car in front of me, or further up the line, but
someone braked WAY, WAY too early going into the Bus Stop and it caused a
daisy-chain effect.  I had to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting the
car in front of me, and we were no where near the normal braking point :(

-Larry


Eldre

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Eldre » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 05:29:14


>No problem :)  The start of that happened in front of us.  I don't know
>whether it started with the car in front of me, or further up the line, but
>someone braked WAY, WAY too early going into the Bus Stop and it caused a
>daisy-chain effect.  I had to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting the
>car in front of me, and we were no where near the normal braking point :(

Remember, not everyone brakes at the same point...

Eldred
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Kyle Robert

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Kyle Robert » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:42:48


happens!

I agree with no yellow flags on the road courses, but not on the ovals.

Kyle

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 08:54:15

Looked at that again and realised I remembered it wrong. I thought I'd
clocked off a mid 1'17, but I forgot about the overrotation at T1.
Regardless, you found the sub-1'17s once I got in front and you would have
stayed there but for you T1 excursion. I was swapping between the fuel, tire
and lap info screen at the time and didn't really notice that, to be honest.
<sheepish grin>

Jan.
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Larr

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Larr » Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:16:04

Well, no shit :)

-Larry



writes:

> >No problem :)  The start of that happened in front of us.  I don't know
> >whether it started with the car in front of me, or further up the line,
but
> >someone braked WAY, WAY too early going into the Bus Stop and it caused a
> >daisy-chain effect.  I had to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting the
> >car in front of me, and we were no where near the normal braking point :(

> Remember, not everyone brakes at the same point...

> Eldred
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Eldre

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Eldre » Wed, 13 Aug 2003 00:57:37

>Well, no shit :)

>-Larry


>> >someone braked WAY, WAY too early going into the Bus Stop and it caused a
>> >daisy-chain effect.  I had to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting the
>> >car in front of me, and we were no where near the normal braking point :(

>> Remember, not everyone brakes at the same point...

I was just reminding you to be *aware* of such a situation.  Say you're
following someone, and you normally brake at the 100 marker.  The person you're
following brakes at the 300 marker, you're caught unawares, and punt him.
Who's fault is that crash?

Eldred
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Larr

RASCAR: Watkins Glenn

by Larr » Sun, 17 Aug 2003 12:39:28

Eldred,

I think you kind of missed what I was trying to describe.

There's early, and there's WAY WAY too early.

-Larry


> >Well, no shit :)

> >-Larry


> >> >someone braked WAY, WAY too early going into the Bus Stop and it
caused a
> >> >daisy-chain effect.  I had to slam on the brakes to keep from hitting
the
> >> >car in front of me, and we were no where near the normal braking point
:(

> >> Remember, not everyone brakes at the same point...

> I was just reminding you to be *aware* of such a situation.  Say you're
> following someone, and you normally brake at the 100 marker.  The person
you're
> following brakes at the 300 marker, you're caught unawares, and punt him.
> Who's fault is that crash?

> Eldred
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