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Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Michael
Oli
BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
Let's assume different car shapes eats some resources (am I correct), I
would rather use those resources for a nice wet track than those car shapes.
F12000 has them and I hate the game.
GC is about putting the essential stuff in to create a good racing game, I
don't always agree with his point of view. For instance on the fact that all
cars drive like a top class car, but he's just very strong minded that
doesn't make his games less.
I've said it before and I will say it again, GP3 won't beat GPL but it will
be the first since GPL to give me the same sensation I felt when first
driving around Watkins Glen in that demo.
> Oli
> BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
> > I've seen lots of complaints about all the cars in GP3 having the same
> exact
> > car shape. What's the gripe? It's not THAT important at all. You
can't
> tell
> > the difference between the shape of a Ferrari and a Benetton at 180 mph
> anyway!
> > :)
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Dan Belcher
> > Team Racing Unlimited
> > http://simcrash.00game.com
I can't understand this complaint myself....
GP2 will have much more realism than any other sim so far, the rain effects,
etc.. are unbeatable.... the graphics look top quality but still people
gripe because it doesn't have every little detail that they want.....
Geoff has a licence for the next 4 or 5 years.... but the end of this term
we should have load of stuff in the sim but no matter hat, come GP52, there
will still be things people want that have not been added....
I don't understand either whats the big deal about a pace lap.
It's in F12k, every time it starts I jsut click space and skip it... why
spent time adding it if most people skip it, and most people DO skip it. Its
horrible going so slow and boring for a lap, you crash it you try to warm
your tyres and waiting on the grip they go cold again, if you don't qualify
on pole you can be sure of a pile-up on the pace lap.....
In general, its nice to have, but its not something you ever use.
Red flags are nice too but they'll***you off after a few restarts....
My only gripe is that I'd prefer 10 second stop goes rather than power downs
but thats not a big problems as I don't intend to be doing too much gravel
hopping:-)
Oliver
BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
Oliver
BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
> > I hate when I just oppose what people say... but you can!
> > Besides if things like car shapes are left out makes you wonder what
else
> > has been left out!
> > Such as the pace lap, red flags and many more...
> > Still I have my hopes up!
> I can't understand this complaint myself....
> GP2 will have much more realism than any other sim so far, the rain
effects,
> etc.. are unbeatable.... the graphics look top quality but still people
> gripe because it doesn't have every little detail that they want.....
> Geoff has a licence for the next 4 or 5 years.... but the end of this term
> we should have load of stuff in the sim but no matter hat, come GP52,
there
> will still be things people want that have not been added....
> I don't understand either whats the big deal about a pace lap.
> It's in F12k, every time it starts I jsut click space and skip it... why
> spent time adding it if most people skip it, and most people DO skip it.
Its
> horrible going so slow and boring for a lap, you crash it you try to warm
> your tyres and waiting on the grip they go cold again, if you don't
qualify
> on pole you can be sure of a pile-up on the pace lap.....
> In general, its nice to have, but its not something you ever use.
> Red flags are nice too but they'll***you off after a few restarts....
> My only gripe is that I'd prefer 10 second stop goes rather than power
downs
> but thats not a big problems as I don't intend to be doing too much gravel
> hopping:-)
Smart AI?
Even God wasn't successful when trying to implement that one:-)
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Kirk Lane
GPLRank: 229.48
ICQ: 28171652
AIM: Kirker64
(IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client)
"The time has come for me to kill this game
Now open wide and say my name"
- "Space Lord", Monster Magnet
> Oli
> BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
> > I've seen lots of complaints about all the cars in GP3 having the same
> exact
> > car shape. What's the gripe? It's not THAT important at all. You
can't
> tell
> > the difference between the shape of a Ferrari and a Benetton at 180 mph
> anyway!
> > :)
> > -----------------------------------------
> > Dan Belcher
> > Team Racing Unlimited
> > http://simcrash.00game.com
> I know it would be very cool and all...but to me if you stripped off all of
> the paint I would have a hard time telling one car from another (aside from
> high/low nose), what with all of the wings and scoops and all...IMO modern
> F1 cars are way too 'busy', too many wings and scoops and diffusers and
> what-have-you and thingamajiggers and whatzamahoozits. IRL and CART cars
> are, on the other hand, much smoother and simpler. No extra wings stuck on
> here or there just to try to get that little tiny bit more at the sacrifice
> of every last bit of looks.
> --
> Kirk Lane
> GPLRank: 229.48
> ICQ: 28171652
> AIM: Kirker64
> (IM me twice so I can reply...using a beta client)
> "The time has come for me to kill this game
> Now open wide and say my name"
> - "Space Lord", Monster Magnet
> > I hate when I just oppose what people say... but you can!
> > Besides if things like car shapes are left out makes you wonder what else
> > has been left out!
> > Such as the pace lap, red flags and many more...
> > Still I have my hopes up!
> > Oli
> > BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu
> > > I've seen lots of complaints about all the cars in GP3 having the same
> > exact
> > > car shape. What's the gripe? It's not THAT important at all. You
> can't
> > tell
> > > the difference between the shape of a Ferrari and a Benetton at 180 mph
> > anyway!
> > > :)
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > Dan Belcher
> > > Team Racing Unlimited
> > > http://simcrash.00game.com
Would love some websites with past F1 car pictures to refer to!
Often, a new shape needs to "grow" on you. Car starts off as ugly
looking but ends up quite nice after getting used to.
Some great cars (looks) that I remember:
- the 1991 (?) green "SPRITE" Jordan With Bertrand Gachot / De Cesaris
- mid-70's Brabham cars (Checkter (white) , Lauda (red "Parmalat"))
- green 79 Lotus (Andretti?)
- one of the early 90's Ferrari (Berger/Alesi) Need a picture here..
In general my opinion is that the strickt rules of aerodynamics
haven't helped the looks of the cars.... Efficiency comes first and
often kills the looks IMO.
JoH
> In general my opinion is that the strickt rules of aerodynamics
> haven't helped the looks of the cars.... Efficiency comes first and
> often kills the looks IMO.
> JoH
-Gregor
>> In general my opinion is that the strickt rules of aerodynamics
>> haven't helped the looks of the cars.... Efficiency comes first and
>> often kills the looks IMO.
>> JoH
>I always had quite the opposite experience, especially considering the
>planes. The most aerodynamically efficient planes always look the best,
>and according to many pilots also fly the best.
Well, they only look sexier per definition to YOU. So my logical mind
concludes that you are closer to fish than the majority...
You not only seem to have a reptile-brain like most of us, but
underneath it a fish-brain as well <G> ;-)
JoH
> Could be true with airplanes. But much less with F1 cars. Although
> obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
<looking out of the fishtank, coughing out water to be able to shout>
Now where did you get such a crazy idea?
-Gregor
I don't, and never will, understand women but by heavens mate, a LOT of them
look pretty ***y good from where I'm sitting!!! :-)
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > Could be true with airplanes. But much less with F1 cars. Although
> > obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
> Yes, but you must know that F1 cars should be ugly almost by their
> definition and the rules that govern them. It amazes me how some
> actually manage to look as good as they do, as the specified design is
> rather fussy. They only start looking good once you understand them, I
> think, and their aesthetics is more intellectual than visceral.
> > >It must be an
> > >evolutionary thing when we were still fish and the hydrodynamically
> > >effective specimens must have looked the sexiest to us ;).
> > Well, they only look sexier per definition to YOU. So my logical mind
> > concludes that you are closer to fish than the majority...
> <looking out of the fishtank, coughing out water to be able to shout>
> Now where did you get such a crazy idea?
> > You not only seem to have a reptile-brain like most of us, but
> > underneath it a fish-brain as well <G> ;-)
> > JoH
> -Gregor
