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Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:27:26

Exactly, that was the second part of my argument, as you might have read in
my post. <g>

Jan.
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Mitc

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by Mitc » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:27:46

Andrew once again grasps at a straw but pulls out shit.

This isn't to be insulting, just an observation.  Europe has as a whole has
lost its fn mind.  You have been LED like sheep to slaughter by your extreme
LIBERAL moonbat media and policy makers yet somehow come to a conclusion the
USA is going farther right, thats fn laughable..  It has nothing to do with
right vs. left and everything to do with right vs. wrong and you my friend
are wrong!

Europe is proving once again, just as it has throughout history that as a
people you are incapable of making the tough choice.  Your history of
appeasment and reletavism has been proven a complete failure over and over
yet you have the nerve to talk about which you know nothnig, America.  How
many Americans died in street rioting over cartoons this year?

When it all collapses AGAIN (France is going fast) you will cry till the USA
comes to bail you out of your self induced fantasy world, once again.  The
difference this time is we arent coming to save your asses from yourselves.

Facts are facts Moonbat, spin it any way you want!


> This isn't meant to be insulting, just an observation. The USA has grown
> so incredibly right wing to outside observers that "left wing" probably
> just means closer to the centre of the political spectrum, which is
> probably where public broadcasting out to be.

> As for its popularity... well, quality has never been particularly
> popular. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is usually the best
> way of getting your audience figures up.

> Andrew McP

B Wegne

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by B Wegne » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:40:38

In this case, what Don means is America's lunatic fringe 'left-wing' (save a few programs) - probably closer to your 'left-wing.'  Our government should do a better job of forcing a balance since the taxpayers subsidize it (<read> I pay for a network that no one watches) and almost 60% of the people say they are center-to-right leaning.   That said, the programming should not be right-wing either, just balanced - an American balance not a European one :)

I agree with you whole-heartedly........although one could argue that PBS does even offer quality anymore.  

Virtually all of the popular shows in America are mind-dulling; primarily aimed to entertain the lesser educated - which is becoming a larger part of our society due to a teacher's union that is more interested in baby-sitting than teaching.

Wag


  > and it's rather left-wing.

  This isn't meant to be insulting, just an observation. The USA has grown
  so incredibly right wing to outside observers that "left wing" probably
  just means closer to the centre of the political spectrum, which is
  probably where public broadcasting out to be.

  As for its popularity... well, quality has never been particularly
  popular. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is usually the best
  way of getting your audience figures up.

  Andrew McP

Larr

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by Larr » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:39:54

Somebody collect up all the Fire Extinquishers.  We're gonna need them!

-Larry


> Andrew once again grasps at a straw but pulls out shit.

> This isn't to be insulting, just an observation.  Europe has as a whole
> has lost its fn mind.  You have been LED like sheep to slaughter by your
> extreme LIBERAL moonbat media and policy makers yet somehow come to a
> conclusion the USA is going farther right, thats fn laughable..  It has
> nothing to do with right vs. left and everything to do with right vs.
> wrong and you my friend are wrong!

> Europe is proving once again, just as it has throughout history that as a
> people you are incapable of making the tough choice.  Your history of
> appeasment and reletavism has been proven a complete failure over and over
> yet you have the nerve to talk about which you know nothnig, America.  How
> many Americans died in street rioting over cartoons this year?

> When it all collapses AGAIN (France is going fast) you will cry till the
> USA comes to bail you out of your self induced fantasy world, once again.
> The difference this time is we arent coming to save your asses from
> yourselves.

> Facts are facts Moonbat, spin it any way you want!


>> This isn't meant to be insulting, just an observation. The USA has grown
>> so incredibly right wing to outside observers that "left wing" probably
>> just means closer to the centre of the political spectrum, which is
>> probably where public broadcasting out to be.

>> As for its popularity... well, quality has never been particularly
>> popular. Appealing to the lowest common denominator is usually the best
>> way of getting your audience figures up.

>> Andrew McP

mcewen

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by mcewen » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:43:26

/rant filter "on"
Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:28:14

They must be connected to the Teacher's Federation out here; at least their aims and ideologies appear the same.
Only within the last few months have the authorities woken up to the fact that we have "educated" a whole generation of illiterates through the late 1970's and onwards.
They can do sums and multiplication tables but can't spell their street names and think grammar is a close relation.

BK


  Virtually all of the popular shows in America are mind-dulling; primarily aimed to entertain the lesser educated - which is becoming a larger part of our society due to a teacher's union that is more interested in baby-sitting than teaching.

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 05:58:16


I don't know... did any Europeans bite the dust in this orchestrated uproar?

Lost me there... what are you talking about: social, political, economical?

On the subject of self-induced fantasies: how's that Iraq thing working out?
<g>

Jan.
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Tony Rickar

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by Tony Rickar » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:48:21


> Somebody collect up all the Fire Extinquishers.  We're gonna need them!

Mitch has probably got his nomex underwear on in preparation...
Ludwi

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by Ludwi » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:07:31

Sorry, I may have missed the thrust of this thread. Was someone
attempting to intimate that Americans weren't thick?
Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:58:00



> Andrew once again grasps at a straw but pulls out shit.

LOL. Are you drowning or waving, Mitch? I can't tell? ;-)

Andrew McP... guilty of starting the most wayward RAS thread for
months! Sorry folk.

PS France's time will come in the rapidly approaching energy supply
crisis. Their nuclear power stance will put them in a very strong
position to compete against more fossil-dependent nations. (They already
export electricity to the UK for example).

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:58:00


> Virtually all of the popular shows in America are mind-dulling

I think that's probably true everywhere, but a nation which can produce
The Sopranos, Frasier, Lost, etc certainly isn't doing everything wrong.
We might have Top Gear, but we struggle to match the excellent writing
and production standards US broadcasters can put together on a
consistent basis.

Andrew McP

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 11:58:00


> we have "educated" a whole generation of illiterates

This is getting way off topic, but what the heck. I think this is true
almost everywhere now. I personally think it's down to the improved
quality of life in recent decades. Generations which don't have to
struggle hard tend to adopt different mindsets, and a more comfortable
generation of parents tends to generate a less motivated generation of
kids. Teachers can't really be blamed because they have a hard job
meeting the demands of parents (who seem to increasingly want their
children raised, not just educated by teachers) and governments whose
targets shift regularly.

Messy subject though.

Andrew McP

B Wegne

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by B Wegne » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:50:56

On the subject of self-induced fantasies: how's that Iraq thing working out?
<g>

Jan.

Pretty good Jan considering it's only been 3 years......in what historical context could you tell of one country taking over another and starting some semblance of self-governance in that time period?

Many mistakes were and continue to be made as pointed out everyday in a left-wing media which only serves to try to weaken public support.  Good thing the media over here didn't have the bias nor the communication networks of today during WW2 to report everything that happened wrong over there; don't you think that it would have eroded public support in the same manner as our Vietnam fiasco?  If it did there's a good chance you'd be living in Greater Germany right now. <g>

IF Iraq can be a relatively stable democracy in 10 years than the cost in lives and dollars times 10 will be worth it for America's future generations. (and frankly, for generations of the World's population even if you don't want to admit it)

1)  One ***ous dictator sitting on 1/6 of the world's energy supply out of power.
2)  26 million people with the ability to choose their own fate (for better or worse); at least it's their choice.  18 million of them not living in fear or repression anymore.
3)  Most importantly, is the strategic location of Iraq.  You will start to see the crumbling of terror states like Iran and Syria from within.  The people will see freedom in their own backyard and revolution from repressed peoples will be inevitable.
    Do you not see the significance of driving the wedge of democracy into the heart of Mesopotamia?  A sword between terrorist enabling countries of Syria and Iran?  Do you not realize that being in Iraq gives us the ability to having forward staging bases in order to attack Iran when it becomes (and it WILL become necessary whether old Europe sees it or not)?  Or do you not see a problem with the biggest terrorist supporting nation having the capability to put a nuclear warhead into downtown Brussels in the next two years?  Think that's impossible?  Let's sit on our hands and see when it's your ass on the line and not ours.  

BTW, how many years after WW2 did it take to stop the smattering of guerilla-like *** from Nazis and their sympathizers? 10-15?

We're dealing with religious fanatical barbarians.  They believe they have the religious DUTY to claim land from past military triumphs of the 7th Century, and then convert the masses to Islam or kill them.  All in the name of Allah - and will fight to the death to accomplish it.  Were the Nazis ever this hell-bent on victory?  I think not save a few looney-tunes.  So given the nature of the enemy, we're doing a fine job in Iraq.

Wag

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:45:03

I have a funny feeling of deja vu coming over me. (Cue "Twilight Zone" theme)

Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard M. Nixon and, I think, Leonard V. Brezhnev all said something similar in times past.
In fact, didn't King George say much the same around 1775?

BK

  So given the nature of the enemy, we're doing a fine job in Iraq.

Uwe Sch??rkam

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by Uwe Sch??rkam » Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:24:04

Sorry Mitch. While I do respect you as a fellow racer on the track,
rants like this little gem you produced here will keep you in my
killfile for the time being. Please notify us ahead of your next forged
posting address update so I can prepare myself. Thanks in advance & all
the best, uwe

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