> >Bit OT I guess, but I'd like to get a brief recap here if possible ?
> >I'm not into golf so I guess I've missed something here...
> Golf has typically been one of those "good 'ol boy" sports where blacks were
> denied access. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are pissed off that
> Tiger Woods has done so well...
writes:
> > >Bit OT I guess, but I'd like to get a brief recap here if possible ?
> > >I'm not into golf so I guess I've missed something here...
> > Golf has typically been one of those "good 'ol boy" sports where blacks
were
> > denied access. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are pissed off
that
> > Tiger Woods has done so well...
> Nonono. They didn't deny blacks access at all. How silly would a
> caucasian caddie look?
> --
> -asbjxrn
-John
> > > Golf has typically been one of those "good 'ol boy" sports where blacks were
> > > denied access. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are pissed off that
> > > Tiger Woods has done so well...
> > Nonono. They didn't deny blacks access at all. How silly would a
> > caucasian caddie look?
> Hmmm......caucasian caddies haven't looked bad for the last several
> decades.........look closer next time.
--
Fester
"The Ferrari is a tainted vehicle and Formula 1 is no longer a sport. If
they had instructed me to do the same I would have told them to stuff
it." -- Stirling Moss
Chris
> > I heard Jodi Scheckter virtually condoning the actions on radio 5 Live
> today.. He reckons
> > any team would do the same.
> Here is the reaction from Sterling Moss
> "The Ferrari is a tainted vehicle and Formula 1 is no longer a sport. If
> they had instructed me to do the same I would have told them to stuff
> it. It is an endor***t of why I'm glad I'm not in F1 today. I cannot
> think of anything more harmful to the image of the sport or Ferrari. The
> magnitude of the disaster in terms of Ferrari's PR could be
> incalculable. I feel sorry for Rubens and for Michael, who clearly did
> not want any part of it."
> Stirling Moss
> (Lifted from rasf1m, original poster Stephen Baines)
snip
> Hell, even *I* would have respected him as a person for that one, and I
> don't like him much, don't get me wrong, I'll admit to his enormous
> talent any day, I'll even admit that he might just go down in history as
> the most talented driver ever, but I'll never respect him
Well, he's German. Is it that...? ;)
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>> How would he have done it? By slowing down? As RB was playing his
>> role, both would have probably slowed down to a crawl. Now THAT would
>> have looked funny. Both drivers were ORDERED, both want to drive those
>> cars (money is factor for those guys anymore).
> That's *exactly* what should have happened. Ferrari wouldn't DARE fire
> them for that. And even if Ferrari did, it would speak loads for their
> m***character on their resume. :-)
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> As a person? We KNOW he's a great driver, we saw probably both quite a few
> interviews with him. Now I couldn't say that I know the guy enough to not
> respect him. Until I hear something really offensive from him, I can only
> judge his driving, not his personality. What do you know?
> Well, he's German. Is it that...? ;)
MS has been around long enough to let me form an opinion on him as a
person, and it was particularly the way he acted towards Damon Hill that
turned me away from him, and he has done nothing since to make me change
my opinion, going against team orders and letting RB have his well
deserved win in Austria would have gone a long way though
I remember Clive James doing a show about the last GP to be held in
Adelaide, and he invited both DH and MS for an interview, and then he
asked both of them to talk about what they admired about the other one
DH was polite enough and even though it might have been just because
there was a camera there, he at least came up with something nice to say
about MS, MS didn't bother to return the favor
That and the kind of person it takes to run other people off the road on
purpose makes me not like him, F1 cars aren't designed for that kind of
racing, you want a contact sport, find something with roofs and fenders
(No need to remind me that I'm also a huge fan of big E, but Nascar is a
different sport from F1)
So like I said, I'll acknowledge his talent as a driver, anything else
would be silly really, but his attitude stinks.....all IMHO of course
:-), I'll never own a Ferrari, I don't smoke (Marlboro) and Vodafones
aren't on sale here, so they're not losing my business, but I won't keep
that particular time slot open 17 Sundays a year anymore
For me, racing is a passion, it's not a business, I understand that to
indulge in the passion, teams must be run as a business, but when the
business side of it completely takes over from the passion, then it's
not for me anymore, and Ferrari crossed that line in Austria, they
didn't even bother to pretend, and they've already stated that they will
do the same in Monaco, showing that they don't have a clue as to what is
going on with a large portion of the racing fans
Oh well, back to pretending my Castrol Chevy is a Castrol Commodore and
that Watkins Glen is Bathurst....:-)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"Hey Papy, when are you going to fix the AI ?"
--(uncle) Goy Larsen--
--
Fester
"The Ferrari is a tainted vehicle and Formula 1 is no longer a sport. If
they had instructed me to do the same I would have told them to stuff
it." -- Stirling Moss
> > You do know what Mr. Williams does with drivers not following orders? ;)
> What do you think his reaction would be when his fired driver calls a
> news conference & announces he'd just been fired because he refused
> orders to fix a race? :-) That's exactly the tactic I'd take...
> --
> Fester
-John
What about one of these F1 cars?
http://atp22.tripod.com/barford2/index.htm
:-)
cheers
John
> Understand your point Fester, but bet a million; if what you say above
> happened, the FIA would bury that driver. He'd be on the street before
the
> next day, press whitewashed, etc.
Race fixing in a sport like horseracing usually leads to to enquiries from
within the governing body and has led to people going to jail in the past
because of fradulent betting on rigged races. In the UK, the bookies were
refusing to refund money to punters, saying that they should have known
better. ***y hypocracy...
MS
David G Fisher
