rec.autos.simulators

Hello,

 I want to do a survey about F1RS, concerning the following:

 With no driving-aids, and after 15 hours practice/setups etc., at
Monza, it's easier than before, but I still "feels" like
accel/brake/steering sensitivity could be lightened up (or fine-tuned)
a bit.

 I wanna send survey-results to Ubisoft.

 Question; With -no- driving aids "on", do you think
acceleration/braking (or steering) is still a bit too sensitive?

Questionarre:

1. Acceleration too sensitive (yes/no)?
2. Braking too sensitive (yes/no)?
3. Steering too sensitive (yes/no)?

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If interested, please reply:

1. Yes, or no
2. Yes, or no
3. Yes, or no
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 I'm merely looking for answers to the 3 questions listed above, not
explantions/reasoning/settings/mathematical equations..<g>, etc.

 I will forward any responses to Ubisoft if you think there is a
problem (or not).  Thanks,

Teehole

DS

Hi!

This is not an explanation/reasoning/setting/mathematical equation.
This is another poll:)
Did you ever write to Ubisoft?
Did you receive an answer?
How did you like the standard FAQ they sent you instead, explaining
everything but what you asked?

Good luck, sincerely. I wish all companies were as responsive as
Papyrus...

Karim

1.      no
2.      no
3.      no

not sure aout the full game, but in the demo you can adjust the sensitivity
of all of these things in the menu where you set up which buttons/axis you
want asigned to which function.  it is accessed by clicking on the round
button in the lower middle of the screen.  when the steering sensitivity is
set to 100% the car is hard to control. i have set this all the way to the
left and it is better.
tim

ditto

PAPA DOC

Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
Infamous
Pink Flamingo Pilot...

No. Once again, set it to 80%.

No. Set it to about 90% or so.

1. no
2. no
3. no

Hey thanks for the public service :-)

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 Oh well, so far, everyone who posted said acceleration, braking and
steering are -not- too sensitive, with no driving aids "on". I won't
bother writing Ubisoft, there's no reason.

 Answers to my own questions are:

1. Acceleration too sensitive?, Yes (positively).
2. Braking too sensitive?, Yes (very minor).
3. Steering too sensitive?, No

  Aside from the strange user-interface, acceleration is the only real
problem F1RS suffers from, at least in my opinion.

 Funny, some posts mention details on the adjustment of joystick,
joystick sensitivity settings, etc. There's no problem here. F1RS's
joystick sensitivity behaves almost identical to that of GP2's.

 I think the problem with F1RS is, acceleration is over-sensitive
compared to that of a real F1 race car.  

 I don't care what setup ya got, what tires, gearing, etc. I think
that F1RS's acceleration-modeling is simply too sensitive in the lower
gears, or lower speeds. And braking is just a "touch" too sensitive
(lock ups occur just a bit too soon up in the higher gears, or higher
speeds).
***

 I just loaded GP2, drive out onto a straight, and stopped. Then put
'er in neutral, floored the accelerator, and slammed it in to 1st
gear. Then I did the same test with F1RS. I think it's very obvious to
"feel" which car behaves more realistically. 20 trips around any track
(without a tire change) will show which sim feels more realistic also.

***

 Hmm..., a challenge!:
Please, if anyone can accomplish this under the following conditions
(with F1RS ver. 1.07), post your car setup please, and a race-time
(along with a replay perhaps?).

1.) Pick Suzuka, Spa, Monoco or Magny Cours (heck any circuit, at 100%
full race).
2.) Set race-difficulty to "Pro" or "Expert".
3.) Drive with -no- driving aids (no anti-slid/grip/abs).
4.) Force a 100% rain race.
5.) Win the race (hmm, maybe just "finish" the race).

 Really do wish ya the best of luck (really, truely, post the win in
this newsgroup if you can do this).

 Btw, I still ENJOY F1RS. It's SO refreshing to drive something
besides GP2. Otoh, I'll run it the way that will give me the most
realism, which means using all driving aids in rain-races, and perhaps
some anti-spin when controlling the rear tires becomes utterly
tedious.
  Thank goodness F1RS does offer driving-aids. I'll need 'em in
rain-races.

 So there's a lot of fun to be had with F1RS, it is a huge LEAP foward
in F1 racing sims. But when I want to run some serious, "nerve
rattling" F1 racing, GP2's just a mouse click away (or hopefully GP3,
someday).  

Teehole

 I do see -vast- (huge!) differences in rear tire-spin during
acceleration, when comparing F1RS to GP2 (or Cart, etc.). If no one
else sees any -vast- (really large!) difference, then it is not the
fault of the sim.

 I also see a basically uncontrolable car in an F1RS 100% rain-race,
without driving-aids.

 Heck you may see an F1RS that has -much- more gentle acceleration
than GP2.

  Control-sensitivity setup in F1RS is very easy to comprehend, but it
might be a problem with W95, drivers, etc. My control-stick (a
light-weight CH Flight-Stick) is calibrated correctly in W95.

Teehole

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Excuse me for saying so, but a couple of people with your specific
problem does not mean the game is broken. It could well meant
that the way you are driving is not right. A friend came over and tried
GP2 and he kept mashing my gas pedal to the ground. In fact he was
WAY over controlling it. Same game same controller same computer.
He had a problem and I didn't. I think the problem is you are over driving
it.

Fine by me.

Good. It couldn't hurt.

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On Thu, 19 Mar 1998 07:36:33 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

 "Gleened" from another Ubisoft complaint in this newsgroup about a
pedal problem:

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UbiSoft has not/will not respond to repeated requests from me
regarding this issue.
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 So in the end, it doesn't really matter, as it seems Ubisoft does not
bother with customer-service/complaints, etc. I will not purchase
another product from them, that being the case. I see no reason to
continue posting about it (this'll be my last).

 Yeah, I'll try to get a realistic "grip" on that...<g>.

Teehole