rec.autos.simulators

by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

> The answer is, yes there will be a CanAm game but will include much more
> than CanAm cars. Think of it as a "prototype" style of sim with Spec Racer
> at the bottom, C Sports in the middle, and CanAm at the top. We will do
> historical is the rights are available as an upgrade. Prob free upgrade I
> should add.

> jokker

Great News!!
Please let me have a car editor, so I can test my real ISRS SR2-class
prototype before we roll it out of the workshop! <vbg>

Any more info, and I'll just have to set up a fan site......

Matt

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by **Mark S. Mille** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

The R&S and Ferrari are the top competitors now, but there's also the Kudzu
and Lola. Mazda engines are doing OK too. Ferrari is an obvious licensing
hurdle.

-MSM

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by **Mark S. Mille** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

----- Original Message -----

Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: There's a planned Can-Am game!

> >Then again. maybe some of the excellent hackers out there can come up
with
> some
> >McLarens, Chaparrals and Porsches from the real Can-Am.

> >Can-Am Legends anyone?

> This would be the ultimate!

The first incarnation will be current day Can-Am. We're sending someone out
to the Mid-Ohio race this weekend, in fact. The official press release and
some early screens should be on the web site in the coming weeks. At the
lower end of the game will be the Spec Racer Ford, and there'll likely be a
middle class of something like CSR or S2000. This is not only to add depth,
but also to make it a more progressive learning experience. And, yes, we
will support endurance races - online and offline - including all the
darkness and crappy weather that can go with them.

Also on the slates is a "retro-pack" to "the Real Can-Am." This is the game
I'm dying to play as well. These are the cars I grew up watching as a kid -
I still remember building plastic models of Chaparrals. So, the bottom line
is, there won't be any hacking needed. Since we're doing all these bizarre
controller setups for Superbike, it'll be snap to map a spare joystick or
throttle axis to control the rear wing. And, I'm sure our physics guys will
get a kick out of modeling the Shadow.

-MSM

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Director of Design that you may be *** and original
Motorsport Simulations in your work."

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by **buzar** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I WANT McCLARENS...I WANT CHAPARRALS!!! LOLAS ETC.
dave henrie

Me too. I want to win one for the flipper!

buzard

> >Hmmm...let's see, if it's a modern day sim we'll have the choice of a Riley
> and
> >Scott chassis with a Ford V-8 and a Riley and Scott chassis with a Chevy
> V-8.
> >Lot's of options there, could be about as exciting as Viper Racing<g>.
> Let's
> >hope they can license the Ferrari 333SP.

> >Then again. maybe some of the excellent hackers out there can come up with
> some
> >McLarens, Chaparrals and Porsches from the real Can-Am.

> >Can-Am Legends anyone?

> >-don
> I think we will find the old Can Am cars were probably just as much of a
> handful as the
> 67 F1 cars. Sure they had some wings and downforce but man...those huge
> Chevy
> big Blocks then later followed by the monster Porche Turbos...whew...
> Unfortunately we may never get to see that era...The WSC Can Am cars seem
> to be
> the target for the sim...
> But ...just in case...
> I WANT McCLARENS...I WANT CHAPARRALS!!! LOLAS ETC.
> dave henrie

by **buzar** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

If you can get both a working flipper on a Chaparral and Riverside Raceway,
I'll buy
2 copies direct from the company!

buzard

> ----- Original Message -----

> Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 8:44 PM
> Subject: Re: There's a planned Can-Am game!

> > >Then again. maybe some of the excellent hackers out there can come up
> with
> > some
> > >McLarens, Chaparrals and Porsches from the real Can-Am.

> > >Can-Am Legends anyone?

> > This would be the ultimate!

> The first incarnation will be current day Can-Am. We're sending someone out
> to the Mid-Ohio race this weekend, in fact. The official press release and
> some early screens should be on the web site in the coming weeks. At the
> lower end of the game will be the Spec Racer Ford, and there'll likely be a
> middle class of something like CSR or S2000. This is not only to add depth,
> but also to make it a more progressive learning experience. And, yes, we
> will support endurance races - online and offline - including all the
> darkness and crappy weather that can go with them.

> Also on the slates is a "retro-pack" to "the Real Can-Am." This is the game
> I'm dying to play as well. These are the cars I grew up watching as a kid -
> I still remember building plastic models of Chaparrals. So, the bottom line
> is, there won't be any hacking needed. Since we're doing all these bizarre
> controller setups for Superbike, it'll be snap to map a spare joystick or
> throttle axis to control the rear wing. And, I'm sure our physics guys will
> get a kick out of modeling the Shadow.

> -MSM

> __________________________________________________________________________
> Mark S. Miller "Be regular and orderly in your life,
> Director of Design that you may be *** and original
> Motorsport Simulations in your work."

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **DPHI** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, I should have included the Lola<g>, it really is a beautiful chassis,
they just need to get more teams running the car to get the bugs worked out.
Sounds like their situation in Cart as well.

As far as the Kudzu though, how much longer can Jim Downing go on slogging
around with those Mazda engines without any results? He must have sunk millions
into the program with very little to show for it. I do admire his
determination, but it seems the rulesmakers are never going to let him build a
winner.

Mark, thanks for the information. This sounds like an excellent product, and if
it does come to fruition, sign me up for multiple copies. I can't wait to crest
the hill at turn 7 at Riverside in a Sunoco Blue 917/30K I also like the idea
of including a couple of training classes. Spec-Fords and Sports 2000 cars
would be loads of fun<g>.

don

by **DAVI** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I also like the idea
Well if the do Spec Racers right everyone will stop complaining about the
AI in SCGT being aggressive and somtimes stupid. I think in the Spec Racer
GCR there must be a rule that you have to hit anohter driver at least once
each session, since they lean on eachother so much.

Dave

by **John Bod** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 04 Jun 1999 00:11:05 GMT, "Mark S. Miller"

>> Hmmm...let's see, if it's a modern day sim we'll have the choice of a
>Riley and
>> Scott chassis with a Ford V-8 and a Riley and Scott chassis with a Chevy
>V-8.
>> Lot's of options there, could be about as exciting as Viper Racing<g>.
>Let's
>> hope they can license the Ferrari 333SP.

>The R&S and Ferrari are the top competitors now, but there's also the Kudzu
>and Lola. Mazda engines are doing OK too. Ferrari is an obvious licensing
>hurdle.

Licensing hurdle? How about this -- just use a generic car called a
"Stallion" if Ferrari won't play. This is what Papy/Sierra did with
the Coventry and the Masurama when they couldn't get the rights to the
Cooper and the Honda, right? <G>

-- JB

> -MSM

>--

>__________________________________________________________________________
>Mark S. Miller "Be regular and orderly in your life,
>Director of Design that you may be *** and original
>Motorsport Simulations in your work."

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by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

> The first incarnation will be current day Can-Am.

I take it you mean World Sports Cars and ISRS prototypes (my knees are
shivering at the moment)

I'm in heaven!!!:-)

Way to go!

> -MSM

> __________________________________________________________________________
> Mark S. Miller "Be regular and orderly in your life,
> Director of Design that you may be *** and original
> Motorsport Simulations in your work."

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Let me know if you come to Norway, I'll let you have a run in our camel lights
car or whatever if this happens! :))

Matt

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by **Tapani Kaijanmak** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Please don't forget 1977-89 5-litre era. European equivalent was Interserie
(1970-99 but real can-amish to 1985)

btw http://www.angelfire.com/me/krejcimar/index.html shows most sportscar &
prototype results after 1953

Tapani Kaijanmaki

by **-Pau** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>Also on the slates is a "retro-pack" to "the Real Can-Am." This is the game
>I'm dying to play as well. These are the cars I grew up watching as a kid -
>I still remember building plastic models of Chaparrals. So, the bottom line
>is, there won't be any hacking needed. Since we're doing all these bizarre
>controller setups for Superbike, it'll be snap to map a spare joystick or
>throttle axis to control the rear wing. And, I'm sure our physics guys will
>get a kick out of modeling the Shadow.

> -MSM

There are three brand new plastic models now available of three versions of
the McLaren from the early days. Check your local hobby shop.

-Paul

by **ddjhenri** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>The REAL Can-Am finished in the late 1970s.

>Anything that followed was (and is) but a pale imitation.
>--
>Best regards,
>Bruce.
>======

Can Am Died the moment the twin Turbo Porsche
took to the track...Nobody had anything for that
car.. :( My memories of Can Am are the
White Chaparrals, the Orange Mclarens and those
dang funny nosed cars....I think they were Lola but
I can't for the life of me remeber. White with L&M
sponsorship(I think!) they had a wing
mounted to the front of the car 2 or 3 feet extended
in front of the nose....I "seem" to remember they
were faster in a straight line but the Mclarens would
gobble them up in the turns...Why wasn't speedvision
around inthe 60's & 70's..I'd love to see those
old races again....
dave henrie
ps...judging from the # of posts in this thread,
it sounds like MSM may have a hit here....

by **Mark S. Mille** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

This is not our approach to things.

I can't really discuss our business model, but we do a lot more than simply
license the manufacturer's and track's names. We want to represent the SCCA
and USRRC properly, and we want to represent Ferrari properly.

-MSM

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by **Mark S. Mille** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Ahhh ... the "w" word ... I obviously can't quote dates at this point. I
sure would like to have the game running online by next year's Rolex24
though.

-MSM

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Director of Design that you may be *** and original
Motorsport Simulations in your work."

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by **Chris Schlette** » Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Excellent point.