Well, if you think like this:
- don't buy GP3
- sell your GP2
- try to find another GOOD racing simulation which runs on your poor
hardware
and stop discussing about GP2/GP3 if you won't ever play this!
bye,
mani
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Manfred Mitreiter
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
I think that's what's going to happen: we'll turn our heads! Happens
to me even in GP2 from time to time. It might feel natural after an
adaptation period.
It was clearly mentioned that the thing is running in software
rendering mode as for now. Therefore, let's wait until the 3D
accelerated version is shown. You might take a look at software-GPL
for an impression of the difference it makes...
All in all I think we shouldn't take the current "impressions" too
serious. There's a lot of work left, probably lots of Gp2-stuff
"borrowed" to start testing, people who have driven it have only spent
15mins or so in probably not the most comfortable circumstances....
That's the drawback of early demos: it's not the final game yet!
Let's all calm down and wait a few months before judging.
JoH
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Jo Helsen EDP Operations BF Belgium
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I just don't understand you guys... How long ago did you see GP2??
Just think away all the fancy hardware 3D effects from the current
games and see what's left. THEN compare.
JoH
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Jo Helsen EDP Operations BF Belgium
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Do YOU in any way find this GP3 page interesting?
If YES, please explain why.
Don't bother...
SOFTWARE mode????
Is there anybody out there still playing games without a 3D card?
Software mode totally irrelevant.
good for a game that is so old.
When I bought GP2, I just had to IMAGINE how it would run on a Pentium 500.
I bought it too, because I really loved GP1, and because I liked the
screenshots and the reviews (PREviews).
But as I said: even with the up to date hardware I had, it just wasn't fun
to play.
Especially when cars go over curbes, even on a P2-500 the game will slow
down.
So does this mean that Microprose have produced a quality product? No!
Just think about buying a beautiful sportscar with all options.. just to
find out it only goes 40 mph..
would be near perfect.
True, like I said: GP2 graphics engine is very poor programming.
The driving-model was ok at the time (it was the best for a long time).
Well, thats true. I agree :)
I just want to warn you guys: don't join the hype, TRY before you buy!
*** off ***.
I always had up to date hardware.
Maybe you are too young to know about GP2.
Why can't you just agree Microprose and Geoff riped us all off?
: *** off ***.
Hey, hey, HEY! If you can't play nicely, go home.
: I always had up to date hardware.
: Maybe you are too young to know about GP2.
I don't imagine there are many three-year olds posting on USENET.
: Why can't you just agree Microprose and Geoff riped us all off?
Because a lot of us don't feel ripped off. If you feel that way, fine.
Have a personal boycott of Microprose. I am sure it will make you feel all
warm and fuzzy, and maybe it will put a tiny financial dent in their
pockets. But stop ranting and raving and trying to turn everyone to your
side of the issue. GP2 has a huge following because it was a quality
product. I don't feel at all ripped off (and it still amuses me when
everyone equates losing 50 bucks on a bad game with the end of the world -
I'm a student with a marginal income and I still don't lose any sleep
about the duds I have bought and will buy).
Let me explain it one more time. Some people liked GP2. Some didn't.
Can you live with the difference? I can.
Stephen
An excellent, tolerant, considered response - you must be proud.
Cheers!
John
I wish I'd never said anything now....
All I think is that we should wait. People we're saying "Ooo it looks
amazing" when clearly (software mode or not) it didn't look much better than
GP2. The background looks nice, but not good enough. The Arrows shot look
average compared to a GPL shot. The poly's of the car would be the same in
3d / soft mode.
Anyway - it's FAR FAR FAR too early to commit to any serious comment about
what the game may or may not be.
My opinion is that the only thing wrong with GP3 is that the web site is
crap, and shouldn't have been made, it's wasted a lot of time and
disapointed a lot of people
Doug
Now, I'm off to race round Castle Combe in GP2...in a Formula Ford...with
the colours of the racing team I work for.
THAT'S why gp2 was soo good, or is so good. Because I can race what I want
where I want. Let's hope GP3 is adaptable like that.
Doug, AGAIN
>>I've studied the screen shots, and especially the one of the back of the
>>Arrows going down the monaco start straight...it looks no better than GP2.
>I really don't know what you mean... It DOES look much better. The
>realism of the wheels is great, for example. Car shape is much more
>detailed as well.
>>The***pit is nice enough - the rotating LCD display is a clever idea,
>>something that I don't think has been done before. However, it's going to
>>REALLY get on your nurves if you're trying to look at numbers that are at
90
>>degrees to your eye line - people will laugh at me tiliting my head going
>>round the corners....
>I think that's what's going to happen: we'll turn our heads! Happens
>to me even in GP2 from time to time. It might feel natural after an
>adaptation period.
>>I appreciate that this is only a 60% completed thing, but GPL looks more
>>organic, GP500 looks more real and TOCA 2 looks more vivid.
>It was clearly mentioned that the thing is running in software
>rendering mode as for now. Therefore, let's wait until the 3D
>accelerated version is shown. You might take a look at software-GPL
>for an impression of the difference it makes...
>All in all I think we shouldn't take the current "impressions" too
>serious. There's a lot of work left, probably lots of Gp2-stuff
>"borrowed" to start testing, people who have driven it have only spent
>15mins or so in probably not the most comfortable circumstances....
>That's the drawback of early demos: it's not the final game yet!
>Let's all calm down and wait a few months before judging.
>JoH
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>Jo Helsen EDP Operations BF Belgium
>========================================
>GP2 was a ripp off, only the screenshots were great.
While ICR2 and other sims still allowed the applying full brake pedal without
much effects or loss of control of locking brakes etc., GP2 was the first to
realistically model locking brakes as well as curbs with bouncing etc..
Prior to GPL, GP2 was the most realistic physics model IMHO.
While GP3 may or may not turn out to be a DUD (I'll wait until it ships
before I get e***d about it) at least give GP2 credit for what it did right.
Seeyas on the track.
--John (Joao) Silva
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Chuck Kandler #70
K&S Racing
http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195
The box said "Windows 95 or better", so I installed LINUX!
> > If so many people are allowed to be totally possitive about GP2 on this
> > channel, why is it NOT allowed to have a different opinion?
> > Isn't it good to have DIFFERENT opinions on a channel??
> If you have a different opinion and can back it up in fact, few people
will
> have a problem with that. But unsubstantiated claims backed with
rudeness
> & obscenities........we don't need it.
> --
> Chuck Kandler #70
> K&S Racing
> http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/thepits/195
> The box said "Windows 95 or better", so I installed LINUX!
Now YOU'RE ***ed off - by my killfile...
*PLONK*
Yes, you HAD...
But seems actually you don't.
An you're talking/writing like a 12 year old ***ager, after his first beer.
Are you drunken, or on ***???
Why should I??
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Manfred Mitreiter
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
