rec.autos.simulators

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:15:39

An EXCELLANT plan Steve...I wonder...would we need a 4th pedal made to
activate the flipper wing?
dave henrie

by **Stephen Smit** » Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:31:22

Dave,

Don't be silly--the 2E only had 2 pedals to begin with (go & stop). Like a
bird's claw, the wing was normally deployed in the "gripper" mode; you had
to hold it in the low-drag position by pushing on a third pedal (see this
month's Road & Track magazine). In Can-Am Legends, you'd simply re-map the
clutch pedal to the wing (or use a third button on the wheel).

--Steve

> > Dave,

> > My Secret Plan:
> An EXCELLANT plan Steve...I wonder...would we need a 4th pedal made to
> activate the flipper wing?
> dave henrie

by **Olaf Thomas van Esse** » Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:30:53

Let's take it a different approach then. Not so long ago a company had a
great idea to make a sim about singleseaters in 1937. Spirit of Speed 1937
I'm talking about. Most of the elements of Cart & F1 would came together in
this sim 'cause of the different types of circuits. It was to supposed to be
more challenging than GPL 'cause those were even more than a match to handle
than GPL cars. And what happened? They blew it. Thinking they would be
learning something. No they're not. There latest software release "Paris
Dakar" must been build on the same engine as Spirit of Speed 1937 was. No
did'nt buy it, but wisely I read some reviews. If Dave Kaemmer is fond of
single seaters then I hope that this is something that he's working on. I
wish it really. Because the idea was really fantastic. Only the outcome was
a bit of shit. Sorry to say that, but unfortunatly it was.

Greetings

Olaf

> "Like I''ve said so many times before.... I sometimes wish I was born 30
> years earlier.."

> LOL! I dunno, Ed--be caredul what you wish for. I *was* born 30 years
> earlier...and along abt. now I'm wishing it'd been 30 years *later*.

> --Steve

> > IMHO, Can-Am is probably one of the greatest series there ever was.
> > Virtually no rules and lots of extremely nice, fast and innovative cars
> and
> > engine combos...
> > Just 2 seats, a spare tire and a big engine!

> > Like I''ve said so many times before.... I sometimes wish I was born 30
> > years earlier..

> > --
> > ed_
> > The GPLEA
> > --------------------------------------
> > - My name is Elliott Forbes Robinson.
> > Spell it, please.
> > - E-F-R.
> > No, no, spell your name.
> > - E-F-R!!

by **Rafe McAulif** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:51:04

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:08:18 -0500, "ymenard"

>> But there is no big killer grasp over 1972.

>Yeah, I figure that somehow, why simply one year? We could have something
>like "GPL 70's", with the best of the best. 6-wheeler, early aero cars,
>Lotus 78 (JPS), Ferrari 312T4, March 701, etc... Considering the cost of
>licensing, why not? I don't see much of a difference, GPL was technically
>not an "Formula One" simulation, that word appears nowhere in the sim.

>This way we could have the Gilles Villeneuve circuit, the original Long
>Beach, the long version of Buenos Aires, Paul Ricard, Montjuich, etc...
>(replacing tracks like Nivelles, which looks quite boring).

>But it's probably just a pipe dream ;-D

But not a bad dream :) It combines a lot of the best aspects of the
70's whilst not being limited by being true to one particular year.
They just pick and choose what works well and leave out all the dead
weight (such as the BRM and Honda - nice to have, but does anyone
drive them?)

Rafe Mc

by **Rafe McAulif** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:56:21

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 21:56:58 -0500, Christopher G Rossie

>Ok. But I think you are just kidding me?
>I had decided to go to Monaco too late for reserved seat.

hehe, good stuff :)

At the Australian GP 2 years ago I was wandering about when a fancy
Statesman almost ran into me from behind, the driver honked his horn.
I turned around, pretty angry, to see that it was Sir Jack Brabham! I
quickly jumped out of his way :)

Rafe Mc

by **Andy Laurenc** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:40:25

Was this on the roads? Just because he's Sir Jack Brabham, doesn't mean he
has a licence to drive like an idiot.

Andy
--
PC-Based Multimedia System
http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms

by **jbod** » Thu, 15 Nov 2001 23:10:04

You want historic 1930s grand prix cars with an advanced simulator
engine under the hood? Try this:

http://www.tiresmoke.simracing.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000002.html

http://www.tiresmoke.simracing.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000003.html

Beta testing is underway right now. The carshapes and in-cockpit
views and such are all completed, and our major focus at the moment is
physics. You guys are going to like this one, I think!

;-)

-- JB

> Let's take it a different approach then. Not so long ago a company had a
> great idea to make a sim about singleseaters in 1937. Spirit of Speed 1937
> I'm talking about. Most of the elements of Cart & F1 would came together in
> this sim 'cause of the different types of circuits. It was to supposed to be
> more challenging than GPL 'cause those were even more than a match to handle
> than GPL cars. And what happened? They blew it. Thinking they would be
> learning something. No they're not. There latest software release "Paris
> Dakar" must been build on the same engine as Spirit of Speed 1937 was. No
> did'nt buy it, but wisely I read some reviews. If Dave Kaemmer is fond of
> single seaters then I hope that this is something that he's working on. I
> wish it really. Because the idea was really fantastic. Only the outcome was
> a bit of shit. Sorry to say that, but unfortunatly it was.

> Greetings

> Olaf

> > "Like I''ve said so many times before.... I sometimes wish I was born 30
> > years earlier.."

> > LOL! I dunno, Ed--be caredul what you wish for. I *was* born 30 years
> > earlier...and along abt. now I'm wishing it'd been 30 years *later*.

> > --Steve

> > > IMHO, Can-Am is probably one of the greatest series there ever was.
> > > Virtually no rules and lots of extremely nice, fast and innovative cars
> and
> > > engine combos...
> > > Just 2 seats, a spare tire and a big engine!

> > > Like I''ve said so many times before.... I sometimes wish I was born 30
> > > years earlier..

> > > --
> > > ed_
> > > The GPLEA
> > > --------------------------------------
> > > - My name is Elliott Forbes Robinson.
> > > Spell it, please.
> > > - E-F-R.
> > > No, no, spell your name.
> > > - E-F-R!!

by **Bart Brow** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:12:12

> Was this on the roads? Just because he's Sir Jack Brabham, doesn't mean he
> has a licence to drive like an idiot.

> Andy

Hmmm...better not get in front of Stirling Moss, OBE, who apparently
disagrees with you...

by **Andy Laurenc** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:26:27

I am, quite frankly amazed he's still alive and hasn't killed anyone yet.
There's a place for driving fast and like a hooligan - the racetrack. The
public roads are not a racetrack (except next week in Wales :-).

Andy
--
PC-Based Multimedia System
http://www.andylaurence.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/pcbmms

by **Andy Stra** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:25:41

> They just pick and choose what works well and leave out all the dead
weight
> (such as the BRM and Honda - nice to have, but does anyone drive
> them?)

The league I run in had a race at Spa last night... there was 3 BRMs,
and 2 Hondas which was by no means unusual!

Andy

by **bill** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:40:35

Will this be available in the uk looks good:) any more info please
bill

by **mark jeangerar** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 03:30:36

Beautiful!

--

"Racing! - Science for the action minded."

mark

> Ok. But I think you are just kidding me?
> I had decided to go to Monaco too late for reserved seat.
> I watched from the Pelouse Rocher to give the palace
> hill side its proper name -- 40f.
> The rain turned the paths down into treacherous muddy slides.
> Women were literally screaming when their guys tried to lead
> them to safety. I ended up sliding down the hill part of the
> way so was covered with mud. Saw the end near the gas works.
> Asked a man with an umbrella -- "who was leading?" This immaculately
> dressed guy in his 20's took one look at me and just grunted
> his displeasure at my presence. I went to the Monaco Red Cross
> and requested that they mobilize the Monaco army (all 20 of them?)
> to help those damsels get down from the mountain. She smiled at
> me, but didn't grunt.
> The race finishes. I am wet, cold and muddy. My rental car is still
> miles away parked in the *** garden auxiliary parking lot.
> My hotel is in Nice. It is getting dark. I am naturally in a
> hurry to get to hotel and get warm again. I am still delighted that i
> finally got to see my first MC Grand Prix, but am getting more and
> more frustrated by the snail pace of the thousands of fans leaving
> the area of the track -- my observation after 23 visits to GP's in
> Europe -- The people they Drive Fast but they walk-like-ZOMBIES!
> So here I am weaving in out of foot traffic on and off the sidewalk,
> not even looking out for the dog poop when all of a sudden my way
> is blocked by this big black car with motorcycle escorts. Now I get
> my Italian/Irish temper up to full revs (the French/English part of
> the mix is not in control) -- I walk over to the right rear
> window of that car and I set my face in the worst scowl of contempt that
> I can muster at the person there in. The Prince recoils at the sight,
> and I am so embarrassed that I forgot to see if the beautiful Princess
> Grace was sitting beside him.
> arcman

> > > (Yeah, i was there...and startled the
> > > Prince Sovereign of Monaco after the race.
> > > But i won't bore anyone with that story...;-)

> > No no, do tell it, I'm intrigued ;-)

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- May the Downforce be with you...
> > -- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Goy Larse** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:14:14

> Wow! Is this a personal project or major company? Will it be available at EB
> in the US? Does it stomp all over Spirit of speed? Do we get to adjust the
> carburetors and stuff? You gonna announce it here, right?

Uhm, I believe it a Nascar Heat mod......

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
--Groucho Marx--

by **John Bod** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:07:30

Yes, correct -- it is a mod for NASCAR Heat. It will be available for
FREE as an add-on download. All you need is the full retail version
of NASCAR Heat (which means you chaps on the other side of the pond
may have to find an importer).

And, yes, it DOES stomp all over SoS!

;-)

-- JB

>> Wow! Is this a personal project or major company? Will it be available at EB
>> in the US? Does it stomp all over Spirit of speed? Do we get to adjust the
>> carburetors and stuff? You gonna announce it here, right?

>Uhm, I believe it a Nascar Heat mod......

>Beers and cheers
>(uncle) Goy

>http://www.theuspits.com
>http://www.teammirage.com

>"A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke"
>--Groucho Marx--

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