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This is weird Dave, DHCP should not be doing this while the connection is
active (As far as I know)... How is tech suport with your ISP? You should
try & get help from them.

To me this sounds more like an hardware problem you're having, my IP changes
but only on re-booting and  even then, will stay the same between re-boots
during the same day ususally. For it to change, the IP has to be allocated
to someone else by the server.

Are you sure that your NIC is properly configured? You're in Win98 right? It
may very well be that the you're not running on the right driver, if so the
Interface Card could be working intermitantly.

Try borrowing a NIC from a friend and re-install it in another PCI slot
(This could create IRQ conflicts with your soundcard that you will have to
resolve but it is a necessary exercise). Try installing your NIC in another
slot if you're positive you have the right drivers.

Denis

Craig

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If they're taking it back when you're using it then that maybe be the case,
but if they take it when you're not, as long as they can give you one back
when it's needed that's ok isn't it?
After all if you want a static IP address you can pay extra for it.

Craig

If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a command
prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type
ipconfig /all

What you're looking for is the lease time.
Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output.

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15 AM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15 PM

In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total for
the lease.

At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 minutes) my
PC will try and renew the lease.
Normally you just get the same IP address back.   However, if the DHCP
server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I try
and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running.  Some ISPs are
resorting to this to break the P2P server thing.

This "may" be what you've experienced.   I've seen lease time as low as 30
minutes (15 minutes).

====================================================

:   I have run some F1 2k2 mods, and some DTM Heat online recently, and each
: night I've been disconnected at least once per evening.   I'm running AT&T
: cable thru a Lynksis router.  Even with good pings. I suddenly just loose
: the connection, it's happened while racing and while chatting.

: static IP#s.  Now if I leave my system idle for a certain period, I have
to
: re-aquire a new IP#.  The trouble is, it seems to do this even when my
: internet connection is active.  Is there a way to limit that ***
behavior?
: dave henrie
:
:

and besides, there is no point to doing it.

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  Here's the lease info from winipcfg:
        Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM
        Lease Expires     10 19 02 6:51:41

   I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last night(7pm
local pacific Daylight  time.)  So I supposedly had a fresh lease.  The
disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into  the fresh lease.
  The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big slew of
newsgroup posts.  I'll go back to double check any new emails and the will
already have lost the connection to the server.  I just have to re-click the
'send & receive'  button a 2nd time and it will start back up.  I guess I'm
gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before every
round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for next
month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours.
dave henrie

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Another option is to watch what the PCs doing at boot up with another PC.
I.e. Sniff the traffic and watch the bootup packets, also trace the time the
game disconnect happens.

Ethereal is a freeware sniffer if you guys are interested in this kinda
thing.

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:
: >    I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last
night(7pm
: > local pacific Daylight  time.)  So I supposedly had a fresh lease.
:
: maybe. the lease can be maintained across system reboots.  W2K does
: this by default I think.
:
:
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DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12 hour or 24
hour  lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry).  Regardless, you shouldn't be
getting a new IP in an hour.

Disconnects can happen for other reasons.

You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect.
Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have a
firewall)?

====================================================

:

: > If this is truly your problems cause.
: > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running), verify
the
: > lease time on the IP.
: >
: > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into a
command
: > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type
: > ipconfig /all
: >
: > What you're looking for is the lease time.
: > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output.
: >
: > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:21:15
AM
: > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:41:15 PM
: >
: > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in total
for
: > the lease.
: >
: > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000 minutes)
my
: > PC will try and renew the lease.
: > Normally you just get the same IP address back.   However, if the DHCP
: > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC when I
try
: > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running.  Some ISPs are
: > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing.
: >
: > This "may" be what you've experienced.   I've seen lease time as low as
30
: > minutes (15 minutes).
: >
:   Here's the lease info from winipcfg:
:         Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM
:         Lease Expires     10 19 02 6:51:41
:
:    I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last
night(7pm
: local pacific Daylight  time.)  So I supposedly had a fresh lease.  The
: disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into  the fresh lease.
:   The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big slew of
: newsgroup posts.  I'll go back to double check any new emails and the will
: already have lost the connection to the server.  I just have to re-click
the
: 'send & receive'  button a 2nd time and it will start back up.  I guess
I'm
: gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before every
: round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for next
: month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours.
: dave henrie
:
:
:

Craig

Regardless, his PC will react EXACTLY the same as if he got an IP from his
ISP.
That is, lease recheck at 50% of the expiry.

Now, what would be interesting is to see what IP lease time his LinkSys is
getting.
It may well be getting a new one within an hours.

In which case it's NAT/Route/Firewall tables would resync, including
dropping session for any NATed PCs.

====================================================

: Bingo.  He has a 24 hour lease from the router, that is what is showing
: up when he does winipcfg.  Dave, if you want to see how long your lease
: really is you will have to check and see if the router setup will show
: you that info.  If it won't, you may have to bypass the router
: temporarily to see it.
:
:

: > but then again if he's using Nat he'll be getting his IP address from
: his
: > router and the router gets it's wan IP address from the ISP
: >
: > Craig
: >


: > > I'm leaning towards some other issue causing your problems.
: > >
: > > DHCP, in your case, appears to be giving you what looks like a 12
: hour or
: > 24
: > > hour  lease (you omitted AM/PM on the expiry).  Regardless, you
: shouldn't
: > be
: > > getting a new IP in an hour.
: > >
: > > Disconnects can happen for other reasons.
: > >
: > > You may need to trace what's going on at the time of the disconnect.
: > > Could you describe your OS and connection type further (do you have
: a
: > > firewall)?
: > >
: > >
: > > ====================================================
: > >
: > >


: > > :


: > > : > If this is truly your problems cause.
: > > : > Next time you boot up your PC (not sure what OS your running),
: verify
: > > the
: > > : > lease time on the IP.
: > > : >
: > > : > If 95/98/ME run the WINIPCFG.EXE utility. For NT/2000/XP go into
: a
: > > command
: > > : > prompt (start/run/cmd(enter)) and type
: > > : > ipconfig /all
: > > : >
: > > : > What you're looking for is the lease time.
: > > : > Here's the tail of my IPCONFIG /ALL output.
: > > : >
: > > : > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, October 19, 2002
: 9:21:15
: > > AM
: > > : > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, October 20, 2002
: 6:41:15
: > PM
: > > : >
: > > : > In this lease, I've got 33 hours, 20 minutes or 2000 minutes in
: total
: > > for
: > > : > the lease.
: > > : >
: > > : > At 50% of the lease time (i.e. in 16 hours, 40 minutes or 1000
: > minutes)
: > > my
: > > : > PC will try and renew the lease.
: > > : > Normally you just get the same IP address back.   However, if
: the DHCP
: > > : > server on the ISPs end decides to "dish out" a new IP to my PC
: when I
: > > try
: > > : > and renew, I WILL loose session on ANY game I'm running.  Some
: ISPs
: > are
: > > : > resorting to this to break the P2P server thing.
: > > : >
: > > : > This "may" be what you've experienced.   I've seen lease time as
: low
: > as
: > > 30
: > > : > minutes (15 minutes).
: > > : >
: > > :   Here's the lease info from winipcfg:
: > > :         Lease Obtained 10 18 02 6:51:41 PM
: > > :         Lease Expires     10 19 02 6:51:41
: > > :
: > > :    I had rebooted just before joining the first of two races last
: > > night(7pm
: > > : local pacific Daylight  time.)  So I supposedly had a fresh lease.
: The
: > > : disco came at about an hour and 10 minutes into  the fresh lease.
: > > :   The change of ip# is usually most prevealent while reading a big
: slew
: > of
: > > : newsgroup posts.  I'll go back to double check any new emails and
: the
: > will
: > > : already have lost the connection to the server.  I just have to
: re-click
: > > the
: > > : 'send & receive'  button a 2nd time and it will start back up.  I
: guess
: > > I'm
: > > : gonna have to try and remember to release and renew my ip# before
: every
: > > : round of the DTM races...but that still leaves me high and dry for
: next
: > > : month's Bullrun 1000 which should run about 3 hours.
: > > : dave henrie
: > > :
: > > :
: > > :
: > >
: > >
: >
: >
:

Well, if the problem is the router serving DHCP to the PC, he can fix
that part of it by giving his PC a fixed IP address within the range
allowed by the router.  Dave, does your PC's IP address change, or does
your router's IP address change?