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by **Cong** » Sun, 29 Sep 2002 05:43:08

That is a good point. I have purchased many Sierra products out of respect
for their support of Papyrus.

Viper Racing
Half Life collector's pack
***gladiators
No one lives forever
Every Nascar Release
GPL

They can kiss that good bye.

> On Fri, 27 Sep 2002 01:24:06 -0600, "mark jeangerard"

> >Why is it not possible to let the big sellers fund the fringe, and
possibly
> >more serious, works in these peoples minds?

> That's a good question. It's more or less how the movie business
> works. They all want the money-making big summer blockbuster. But they
> fund more serious films too in hopes of awards, critical acclaim, and
> building their studio's prestige.

by **ssra** » Sun, 29 Sep 2002 10:17:22

Eye candy wise (from the interview at least) talked about
photo-realistic.
Now if that is true and they are saying "we have to leave now but
look at this" even the latest CPU will be stretched to the breaking
point for a while to come so if that and "heres the code" about
3months in I would not see this thing leaving harddrives for a long
time

by **Eldre** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:02:08

But would the slower drivers REALLY pay a monthly fee to get their asses kicked
all the time? I may be in a bunch of leagues now, but it also doesn't COST me
anything. I don't join anything that actually costs to join, simply because I
know I can't compete.

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by **Eldre** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 01:02:08

writes:

>> GPL2: $149.95
>> Monthly fee is $8.00
>> Carset and season pack for 1972 $34.95

>> One year revenue: appr. $180.00 vs $6.00

> I lost track somewhere along the way - what's the $8 monthly fee for?

Multiplayer membership?

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by **Jason Moy** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 03:18:45

I can compete fine in leagues, and I still quit as soon as a cost was
levied. I'd rather race AI than pay to play online, at least until
1.5mbps circuits come standard in every house. =)

Jason

by **mark jeangerar** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 03:20:22

Is that to unlock the 'online' feature?

I'd rather pay a larger price at the beginning. I'd buy yearly updates, np.
Stuff like the no-disco patch I would expect for free... but paying a
monthly fee to be able to dial up Jan and have a spin around Monza is
strictly out. That's a bit like asking me to pay a monthly fee to Isuzu to
get the current key to start my car. I don't like that idea one bit. Imagine
a lease world, where you would buy a bed, but pay a monthly fee to lie in
it. Same for you appliances and dog.... Yikes. :-(

How does this Warbirds thing work?
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mark

> writes:

> >> GPL2: $149.95
> >> Monthly fee is $8.00
> >> Carset and season pack for 1972 $34.95

> >> One year revenue: appr. $180.00 vs $6.00

> > I lost track somewhere along the way - what's the $8 monthly fee for?

> Multiplayer membership?

> Eldred
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> N2002 Rank:+20.124

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by **Schoone** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 03:28:48

Well a lot of leagues charge fees to cover their server costs, trophies, etc
plus it is also a way to show dedication to a league so that people aren't
as apt to join and then quit after a few races.

> >But would the slower drivers REALLY pay a monthly fee to get their asses
kicked
> >all the time? I may be in a bunch of leagues now, but it also doesn't
COST me
> >anything. I don't join anything that actually costs to join, simply
because I
> >know I can't compete.

> I can compete fine in leagues, and I still quit as soon as a cost was
> levied. I'd rather race AI than pay to play online, at least until
> 1.5mbps circuits come standard in every house. =)

> Jason

by **Jason Moy** » Mon, 30 Sep 2002 05:37:30

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:28:48 -0300, "Schooner"

>Well a lot of leagues charge fees to cover their server costs, trophies, etc
>plus it is also a way to show dedication to a league so that people aren't
>as apt to join and then quit after a few races.

I agree, and I understand why some leagues charge, I just can't
justify paying to participate in terms of opportunity cost.

That said, if RAS started a RASCAR type league, with full
rules/points/prizes and Eldred charged for it, I'd join in a
heartbeat. I'd get killed if it were in GPL or if the truly great
simracers joined, but I'd also learn a lot more than I would by racing
in most leagues and it would be fun losing.

Jason

by **Eldre** » Tue, 01 Oct 2002 04:06:02

writes:

No, I'd think that it would be more like TEN was. You pay a monthly fee for
their 'game matching' capability with ratings, ranks, and stats.

Dunno, but it's probably similar to the above.

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by **mark jeangerar** » Tue, 01 Oct 2002 04:36:02

OK, I had it all futzed up in my head. I though the game publishing company
was taking the monthly fee. :-) Of course, if the league offers what I want,
and it's worth paying for or takes considerable effort to produce, I'd pay
gladly.

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