rec.autos.simulators

by **Patrick Bar** » Wed, 06 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> I just bought ICR2 a couple of days back. I got a simple question to
> ask. Is it actually possible to go round the corners in the ovals flat
> out, foot on the pedal (or in this case, finger on the joystick button)?

Given the accuracy of the sim, in most cases, the answer (for me) is no.
Michigan probably, but after a few laps with my unsophisticated set-up,
the tires go off.

Watch a race on TV, pay attention to the in-car camera (the sound). They
don't go 'round flat either. It's real. It's life !

pb

by **John Vozna** » Thu, 07 Mar 1996 04:00:00

writes:
button)?

You're going to have to back out of the throttle a little in the
corners on an oval or you'll find yourself eating the wall...just like
a real Indycar :-)

John

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by **Josh Beauli** » Sat, 09 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>Subject: Re: ICR2 Question - Going flat out on ovals?
>Date: 7 Mar 1996 04:43:18 GMT

>: But check the tape from Mansell's 1993 race. He only BARELY lifted,
>: even into T3, and that was in RACE trim. I would bet a stack that
>: he and Mario never lifted in their qualifying laps.
>They had about 45% more downforce in 1993 than 1995. They have even
>lost a little bit more this year. (but they stole some of it back)

They lost 28% more this year... but yes, they did get some grip back thanks to
better tires and other innovations.

by **Yusseri Yusof** » Mon, 11 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> writes:

> >The cars in IndyCar II
> >are based on the geometry that the 95 cars had, which includes a slight
> >reduction in downforce.

> The reduction wasn't slight; I believe it was 40%.

Then how come the manual sort of 'imply' that it's possible to go flat
out (in the ovals)? That was my main problem I guess, read the tracks
sections for the tips into the corners and tried to translate it into my
setups.

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|University of Essex |

by **RickGent** » Tue, 12 Mar 1996 04:00:00

>Then how come the manual sort of 'imply' that it's possible to go flat
>out (in the ovals)?

I believe that with the proper set up you can go flat out at Michigan. I'd
be surprised, however, if you could go flat out at Nazareth, Milwaukee and
Phoenix...

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

by **Jay D. Steel** » Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:00:00

> I believe that with the proper set up you can go flat out at Michigan. I'd
> be surprised, however, if you could go flat out at Nazareth, Milwaukee and
> Phoenix...

I have been able to go a full lap flat out at Michigan, but not consistently.
I usually chicken out and lay off just an bit in corner 1--it has to feel
right in order for me to keep my foot on the floor.

I haven't been able to touch going flat out anywhere else.

-Jay

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by **Jeffrey Hunsberg** » Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:00:00

If you watch that simulcast from Nazareth two years ago, Michael
Andretti's in-car showed he was REALLY getting off of the gas into T3.
From being at the race now for a few years, I can tell you they never
take those corners flat like I used to in ICR1.
This is the reason I was so surprised that the year I went after
driving the track for hundreds of miles in ICR1. They went into the
corner so hard and so fast and you could still hear them lift and hear
the brakes (and smell em) and hear the tires fighting for grip all
through 3 and 4. Really dramatic. Villeneuve even downshifted in 3
and 4 and then upshifted again right before T1.
ICR2 models this much more realistically even though I CANNOT go fast
there anymore let alone keep Hiro behind me at 100% /realistic damage
:)

Jeff

>>> I just bought ICR2 a couple of days back. I got a simple question to
>>> ask. Is it actually possible to go round the corners in the ovals flat
>>> out, foot on the pedal (or in this case, finger on the joystick button)?

>>Given the accuracy of the sim, in most cases, the answer (for me) is no.
>>Michigan probably, but after a few laps with my unsophisticated set-up,
>>the tires go off.

>>Watch a race on TV, pay attention to the in-car camera (the sound). They
>>don't go 'round flat either. It's real. It's life !
>But check the tape from Mansell's 1993 race. He only BARELY lifted,
>even into T3, and that was in RACE trim. I would bet a stack that
>he and Mario never lifted in their qualifying laps.
>In icr1 Nazareth was a flat-out track. In ICR2, the manual says you
>can run flat out, but I sure havn't hit that setup yet, and from what
>I see in the race, you have to use the brakes too. I remember hearing
>Derek Daly saying that when Emmo set a track record he *didn't* use the
>brakes, and he was surprised at that. I like this much better,
>incidently.
>--
>Brian Wong Systems Engineering Group (Servers)

by **100277.2..** » Wed, 20 Mar 1996 04:00:00

Michael Wollenschein has found a setup which enables us to go flat-out
all around for a hotlap run. I have done a 243.603, he already did a
243.660.

Setup + replays can be found at our homepages:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/GNaujoks and
http:/ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ATB

Georg Naujoks

by **Flavio Sil** » Sun, 24 Mar 1996 04:00:00

flat-out
all around for a hotlap run. I have done a 243.603, he already did a
243.660. <<

Hi, Georg!!

It's a real small world, isn't it??

Nice seeing you here...:)