rec.autos.simulators

Ok, you see these messages all the time, I know they get annoying,
But if you are an excellent patch writer, and you know about GP2 by
microprose, you can earn $90 New zealand.(approx $62 dollars
American).
This (Im not sure) could be impossible but, all I want is for somone
to make a patch reletivly free of bugs(major ones that is .ie Crash
the computer) so you can FLIP the car and/or make it so you can go
higher than the limit that the program makes(The height of the ***
at Monaco or the bridge at suzuka).
I am NOT joking!!!
Just make a patch and send it to me via e-mail. If I find it
satisfactory and the game playable, I will send you $90 NZ.
And then with your permission I will release it on my pages at:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
So if you have the skills to dealve deep into the program of gp2 and
change it so It wont kick up a fuss, then you might have $90 in your
pocket!!!!
Thankyou
Julian Maxwell

estimate_of_hours*$200*1.3

Where
  - estimate_of_hours is at least greater than 1000
  - $200 is the hourly rate
  - 1.3 is a risc-factor

Greetings :-)

Patrick Frants
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Doing:  RCFS (Radio Control Flight Simulator)

Ok, you see these messages all the time, I know they get annoying,
But if you are an excellent patch writer, and you know about GP2 by
microprose, you can earn $90 New zealand.(approx $62 dollars
American).
This (Im not sure) could be impossible but, all I want is for somone
to make a patch reletivly free of bugs(major ones that is .ie Crash
the computer) so you can FLIP the car and/or make it so you can go
higher than the limit that the program makes(The height of the ***
at Monaco or the bridge at suzuka).
I am NOT joking!!!
Just make a patch and send it to me via e-mail. If I find it
satisfactory and the game playable, I will send you $90 NZ.
And then with your permission I will release it on my pages at:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
So if you have the skills to dealve deep into the program of gp2 and
change it so It wont kick up a fuss, then you might have $90 in your
pocket!!!!
Thankyou
Julian Maxwell

Ok, you see these messages all the time, I know they get annoying,
But if you are an excellent patch writer, and you know about GP2 by
microprose, you can earn $90 New zealand.(approx $62 dollars
American).
This (Im not sure) could be impossible but, all I want is for somone
to make a patch reletivly free of bugs(major ones that is .ie Crash
the computer) so you can FLIP the car and/or make it so you can go
higher than the limit that the program makes(The height of the ***
at Monaco or the bridge at suzuka).
I am NOT joking!!!
Just make a patch and send it to me via e-mail. If I find it
satisfactory and the game playable, I will send you $90 NZ.
And then with your permission I will release it on my pages at:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
So if you have the skills to dealve deep into the program of gp2 and
change it so It wont kick up a fuss, then you might have $90 in your
pocket!!!!
Thankyou
Julian Maxwell

Again Julian, please dont take offense, its not directed towards you,
but if you bought a microwave from Sears
only to find out it didnt cook you food any quicker than a
"conventional" oven, wouldnt you feel like you 've been had?!! Why would
software be any different?!!

Good luck with your quest to make this sim better, because it had a good
start, It just didnt make it
half-way to the finsh line and thats too bad because alot of these guys
in here(including myself) have spent
hard-earned money on FAST pentiums only to have to put up with ***from
"grab the money and run" companies like Microprose! Thanks alot MP,
we'll remember you in the future! Its too bad too because I love F1
racing
to death, but a patch wont get us there, only a "COMPLETED" GP3!!

-David Gary-

I know some REAL good hackers & programmers that could look into it.
Cost you $40.00 an hour Canadian. 8hr day.Paid lunch.
Would take about 6 months. No money back refund if they can't do it.
Perhaps you should hound Microprose. It's their Shitty program.

Now wait a minute.  I have never seen a Canadian hacker contract that
didn't include a "and ALL the Beer We Can Drink" clause.  I question
the validity of your offer.  ;-)

David Gary wrote :

I too am pissed at the fact that I help support the MPS by purchasing
GP2.

I have sent 2 emails to their tech. dept and wow what a suprise no
reply.

Its ***in stupid to have a P200Intel w/ 64meg of EDOram and 4 meg of
vid ram(Matrox Mystique) and STILL run the game without the all the
details on. (sky, details in mirrors etc.) to name a few***ups.

Is anyone else up to doing more than whine like what Im doing ?
Waiting this long for a patch or EVEN for a reponse is now TOO LONG.

What I would like to know here is HAVE all of the GP2 owners who have
just let their copy sit on the shelf or are putting up w/ the game sent
email to MPS to *** about changes ??

If not perhaps ask a collective group(rec.autos.sim) and collectivly
send e-mail to MPS till they shut the site down from overload or get an
answer ??

Any other suggestions ????

Jude R.
AC Cobra(590hp)
SHO(225hp)
Windstar(It carries the kids and the spare parts)

I forget the exact e-mail address, but try to send some e-mail to Spectrum
Holobyte. They should answer you. I wrote them the other day and they
replied within 2 hours.

<snip>

Jezus, man!

Did your girlfriend just leave you or something?? Are you an ex-employee of
Microprose?

You are overreacting , and you know it. (Or I *hope* you realise it like any
sane person)
Gp2 is not perfect. Some critique is legitimate. The fps system has it's
drawbacks. There's no weather support (although it isn't on the box either). And
Monaco isn't exactly fluent when played in SVGA full detail. It's also a shame
that there's no 3D support, nor Win95.

But:
-development started a few YEARS ago. No traces of Win95 or 3D cards at that
moment. Also, 3D card standards have not really settled: what type to choose?
-good weather simulation is impossible without using dedicated hardware
-Monaco isn't fluent, yes. But the level of detail at which this happens offers
an almost _photographic_ representation! That's not a matter of bad coding,
that's a matter of offering icing on the cake for the near future. You (I and
the others?) will still enjoy Monaco in two years time (SVGA, full detail) while
other sims will be (visually) obsolete.
-Gp2 offers some excellent competitors AI and great car-movement. Name ANY other
sim where the car bounces around like that.

Try to stay objective in your comments

JH

------- The best way to accelerate a Mac is 9.81 m/s2 --------
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  Here here!  I want my microwave patched!  Where are you, Whirlpool?  YOUR
MICROWAVE SUCKS!  YOU SUCK TOO!  YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF....oh, sorry.

Bill Jenkins

http://www.wiu.edu/users/muwtj1
The Chevrolet Beretta Home Page

Is this the only thing you base your SIMS on. This game is incomplete,
period. The graphics
and IA in this SIM are great, but these are clouded by the all the
things that are unfinished in this SIM.
Of the newest and best sims to date, N2, ICR2, N1, F22 runs fluid as
water on my system and
their graphics stand alone compared to GP2 because of their ENGINE.
Theres time for compromise and then theres time for having to put up
with Bullshit!
Well if you like GP2 and have fun then thats what its all about! I, on
the other
hand can smell bullshit, no matter how much icing you put on it. If you
like it
so much then why would you be wasting your time replying to my posts?

The Bottm line is: With NO multi-player option, NO sound, NO acceptable
framerate, NO utilities, NO tech support, NO..........nothin, this game
should be sold for nothin! Its a ripp off!!...nuff said.

-DG-

On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:00:59 -0500, David Gary

What do you mean? What isn't right? Instead of just complaining you
could atleast be specific about the shortcomings of the game.

Here we go again....

You start to remind me of one of my friends mother when she has her
menstruation.

It would indeed be very nice to have someone from MPS active in this
group. But considering guys like you will flame them as soon as they
show up they never will. And I don't blame them.

IMHO GP2 is a very good game, so is NCR, NCR2, ICR1 and ICR2 which I
also own.

< Papyrus praise snipped>

Yes indeed, quite unbelievable......

I guess you're not talking about GP2 here. Last time I played it it
had all the things you mentioned above. And there is a lot more utils
for GP2 than for any of Papyrus games. And more will come.

Huh?

Considering GP2 was late by about a year because things were being
added, this "grab the money and run" doesn't really fit when talking
about GP2. MPS were in financial crises at the time and could have
released it then for a shortsighted attempt to ease the pressure.

GP2 isn't perfect, it isn't running as smooth as perhaps it should be,
their support isn't great and it would be nice with network support
etc.

But all these things should have been known to you when you bought the
game, considering you're a member of the "true racing sim community".
To use your microwave metaphor - you wouldn't complain if your
microwave didn't slice you bread, would you?

I hope you just had a bad day, otherwise you need to rethink about
your attitude towards life.

/Martin

 I love to complain about everithing,my stupid dog, my 286 anything!!!!
 But the thing I adore is to *** against GP2 and I know everithing
that you don't know bunch of stupid idiotics newbies of simulations

 From the GREAT DAVID GARY!!!!

 -DG-

Eric