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AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

Rafe McAulif

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:46:16

Now if only all the big sites would use GPL, N4 and (soon) WSC as
their benchmarks...

Rafe Mc



>Hmm? Rafe I never knew this but this is why I wanted the thread
>to have a life of its own! Apparently both AMD & Intel will slide
>some bucks' here & there to show the consumer [whether it is a
>valid point or not] that their chip us better then the others! So in
>essence its a "who's on first" kinda thing? Interesting..


>| When you talk about "popular games" like Q3, etc., basically I think
>| Intel has put a bit of money into those games for a specific purpose.
>| That is, to show how well a game will run if P4 optimized. Q3 gets
>| targeted because EVERYONE compares how their system runs Q3 on the
>| internet (not talking us simmers, but review ans o'clocking sites)
>|
>| So Intel optimize Q3, then everyone says "wow, it runs games so fast",
>| but it only happens with one or two games, so it's a bit of a moot
>| point. AMD did the same thing with Q2 when they released 3DNOW!, to
>| show the speed improvement and impress people. Fancy marketing tricks.
>|
>| It'll take a while for any proggies to carry P4 optimisation, but by
>| the time they do, AMD chips will support it as well, so the P4 will
>| still be a loser IMO.
>|
>| Rafe Mc
>|
>|

>| >> fwiw
>| >> Rafe this is just what I did! Have a P3 1ghz_cpu o/c to 1.22 and
>| >> w/ my abit SA6R mobo w/512megs of ram w/ GF2GTS'Pro my
>| >> little computer smokes for me! <g> Also I just bought the P220f
>| >> monitor & this made my puter look & feel almost real! Wow! :-)

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Rafe McAulif

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Rafe McAulif » Thu, 26 Jul 2001 22:51:35

Wow, sounds good. I was looking at a 21" Viewsonic myself, but
couldn't stretch the budget enough :( Pretty happy with my 19" baby
anyway, does very nicely. Maybe a viewsonic for my brother when he
upgrades, they sound like the bees knees.

Rafe Mc



>Sure Eldred... $749.95 shipping free from outpost.com.
>They ship this monitor out of Ohio so its really close to
>you!! You'll love it too but just to be sure go to a store
>that has one! Your taste might not be the same as mine.
>-Thom_j.
>"O" yea btw: the shipping weight is 80lbs! yikes. :-)


>| Out of curiousity, how much WAS that?  I was considering buying a 21"
>screen(I
>| only have a 17" now).  I had ordered one from UBid, but it got lost in
>| transit... :(
>|
>| Eldred

>"Thom j." writes:
>| >The P220f is the Professional Series 22" CRT monitor by ViewSonic
>| >Rafe. I was a NEC dude for years but when I got my 19" PS790 I've never
>| >found any other name brand that comes close for the money to
>| >the ViewSonic..imho I do alot of computer graphics & photography
>| >so the 'huge' monitor really helps in detailing and this monitor can be
>| >set to match any printer spot-on! The *** quality is just amazing!
>| >I cant say enough about VeiwSonic but I'm bias now..<g>

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Thom j

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Thom j » Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:41:17

Yea that would be really nice!! It sure might help WSC become
a reality faster or atleast help a bit..<g>

| Now if only all the big sites would use GPL, N4 and (soon) WSC as
| their benchmarks...
|
| Rafe Mc
|
|
|
| >Hmm? Rafe I never knew this but this is why I wanted the thread
| >to have a life of its own! Apparently both AMD & Intel will slide
| >some bucks' here & there to show the consumer [whether it is a
| >valid point or not] that their chip us better then the others! So in
| >essence its a "who's on first" kinda thing? Interesting..
| >
| >| When you talk about "popular games" like Q3, etc., basically I think
| >| Intel has put a bit of money into those games for a specific purpose.
| >| That is, to show how well a game will run if P4 optimized. Q3 gets
| >| targeted because EVERYONE compares how their system runs Q3 on the
| >| internet (not talking us simmers, but review ans o'clocking sites)
| >|
| >| So Intel optimize Q3, then everyone says "wow, it runs games so fast",
| >| but it only happens with one or two games, so it's a bit of a moot
| >| point. AMD did the same thing with Q2 when they released 3DNOW!, to
| >| show the speed improvement and impress people. Fancy marketing tricks.
| >|
| >| It'll take a while for any proggies to carry P4 optimisation, but by
| >| the time they do, AMD chips will support it as well, so the P4 will
| >| still be a loser IMO.
| >|
| >| Rafe Mc
| >|
| >|
| >| >> fwiw
| >| >> Rafe this is just what I did! Have a P3 1ghz_cpu o/c to 1.22 and
| >| >> w/ my abit SA6R mobo w/512megs of ram w/ GF2GTS'Pro my
| >| >> little computer smokes for me! <g> Also I just bought the P220f
| >| >> monitor & this made my puter look & feel almost real! Wow! :-)

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Thom j

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Thom j » Thu, 26 Jul 2001 23:46:01

For me Rafe, It's the best $750 I've spent in a long time! Not
just for *** either! I can do my graphic and photography
work with more precise detail now!

| Wow, sounds good. I was looking at a 21" Viewsonic myself, but
| couldn't stretch the budget enough :( Pretty happy with my 19" baby
| anyway, does very nicely. Maybe a viewsonic for my brother when he
| upgrades, they sound like the bees knees.
|
| Rafe Mc
|
|
|
| >Sure Eldred... $749.95 shipping free from outpost.com.
| >They ship this monitor out of Ohio so its really close to
| >you!! You'll love it too but just to be sure go to a store
| >that has one! Your taste might not be the same as mine.
| >-Thom_j.
| >"O" yea btw: the shipping weight is 80lbs! yikes. :-)
| >
| >| Out of curiousity, how much WAS that?  I was considering buying a 21"
| >screen(I
| >| only have a 17" now).  I had ordered one from UBid, but it got lost in
| >| transit... :(
| >|
| >| Eldred
| >
| >| >The P220f is the Professional Series 22" CRT monitor by ViewSonic
| >| >Rafe. I was a NEC dude for years but when I got my 19" PS790 I've
never
| >| >found any other name brand that comes close for the money to
| >| >the ViewSonic..imho I do alot of computer graphics & photography
| >| >so the 'huge' monitor really helps in detailing and this monitor can
be
| >| >set to match any printer spot-on! The *** quality is just amazing!
| >| >I cant say enough about VeiwSonic but I'm bias now..<g>

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Eldre

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Eldre » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 02:10:38



>For me Rafe, It's the best $750 I've spent in a long time! Not
>just for *** either! I can do my graphic and photography
>work with more precise detail now!

Yow...  That's a bit(read: a LOT) out of my budget... :(

Eldred
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Thom j

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Thom j » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 06:34:56

Sorry Eldred but you should see some of the really high prices
they're getting for the P220f on other sites... Holy Sh_t!! Since
I use it for my graphics & photography too it was money well
spent on my end!! Good luck in your search tho'.. -Thom_j.

| Yow...  That's a bit(read: a LOT) out of my budget... :(
|
| Eldred

"Thom j."writes:
| >For me Rafe, It's the best $750 I've spent in a long time! Not
| >just for *** either! I can do my graphic and photography
| >work with more precise detail now!

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Rafe McAulif

AMD? Intel? and Sims-Games

by Rafe McAulif » Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:12:56

And a valid business deduction I'm sure as well <g>

Rafe Mc



>Sorry Eldred but you should see some of the really high prices
>they're getting for the P220f on other sites... Holy Sh_t!! Since
>I use it for my graphics & photography too it was money well
>spent on my end!! Good luck in your search tho'.. -Thom_j.


>| Yow...  That's a bit(read: a LOT) out of my budget... :(
>|
>| Eldred

>"Thom j."writes:
>| >For me Rafe, It's the best $750 I've spent in a long time! Not
>| >just for *** either! I can do my graphic and photography
>| >work with more precise detail now!

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