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RASCAR: Points after 32 events

Mitch_

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Mitch_ » Thu, 16 Oct 2003 01:47:44

RASCAR Point standings

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Point Standings
Results after 32 events
      Pos Driver Points Interval Bonus Events Wins Poles Laps Led Led% Top 5
Top 10 Prov DNS DNF
      1 Neil__C 4,597 -- 85 31 4 5 2,927 295 7.70% 16 23 0 0 10
      2***-Trickle 4,564 -33 145 28 4 3 2,944 538 14.04% 22 25 0 0 2
      3 LTB-Racer 4,088 -509 40 28 2 1 2,686 104 2.71% 11 19 1 0 7
      4 j_verschue_RAS 3,844 -753 5 28 0 0 2,700 7 0.18% 3 17 2 0 7
      5 BOster 3,206 -1,391 95 20 4 1 2,043 460 12.00% 16 16 1 0 4
      6 DaveGF 3,018 -1,579 25 22 0 1 1,997 35 0.91% 5 12 1 0 8
      7 JurjenvanderLelij 2,983 -1,614 10 21 0 0 2,165 7 0.18% 9 13 1 0 2
      8 86_k_roberts 2,956 -1,641 5 23 0 0 1,591 1 0.03% 4 7 0 0 13
      9 s_brunt 2,800 -1,797 15 22 0 0 1,416 15 0.39% 3 9 1 0 12
      10 Mitch_A 2,764 -1,833 30 20 2 0 1,448 61 1.59% 7 10 0 0 9
      11 jsimmons 2,604 -1,993 35 19 0 0 1,331 99 2.58% 4 9 0 1 8
      12 grubbat 2,371 -2,226 20 16 1 1 1,715 120 3.13% 7 11 1 0 4
      13 Ed Solheim 2,309 -2,288 20 17 0 1 1,745 110 2.87% 3 9 2 0 9
      14 bamadano 2,219 -2,378 20 17 0 0 1,239 78 2.04% 3 9 0 0 9
      15 joonjoonli 2,177 -2,420 10 16 1 0 1,535 24 0.63% 2 10 4 0 7
      16 Elrikk 2,153 -2,444 5 18 0 0 1,173 5 0.13% 0 3 12 0 11
      17 epickett 2,034 -2,563 15 16 0 0 1,014 3 0.08% 0 5 0 0 8
      18 bluestringer 1,938 -2,659 20 14 0 0 1,457 35 0.91% 3 8 0 0 2
      19 bfarmer 1,823 -2,774 5 14 0 0 972 1 0.03% 4 7 3 0 5
      20 ian_parker 1,764 -2,833 15 13 1 0 857 25 0.65% 4 7 0 0 7
      21 seery 1,739 -2,858 5 13 1 1 1,122 7 0.18% 1 6 0 0 3
      22 UweSchuerkamp 1,728 -2,869 5 14 0 0 991 5 0.13% 0 5 1 0 7
      23 49RAS_ZZBusch 1,717 -2,880 5 15 0 0 484 2 0.05% 0 1 4 0 13
      24 mcfadds 1,679 -2,918 0 14 0 0 733 0 0.00% 0 3 2 1 7
      25 T_White 1,633 -2,964 60 10 4 8 1,154 479 12.50% 7 8 0 0 3
      26 jsterner 1,563 -3,034 5 13 0 0 828 1 0.03% 0 4 0 0 5
      27 (LNB)_3 1,516 -3,081 70 9 4 6 1,014 695 18.14% 7 7 0 0 1
      28 boyk7808 1,250 -3,347 0 10 0 0 451 0 0.00% 1 2 1 0 8
      29 frederickson 1,195 -3,402 0 9 0 0 801 0 0.00% 2 5 1 0 2
      30 steve whitty 1,164 -3,433 10 9 0 0 777 14 0.37% 0 4 1 0 1
      31 ZZBusch 1,076 -3,521 0 9 0 0 671 0 0.00% 0 2 5 0 4
      32 yad revilo 977 -3,620 10 7 0 0 538 14 0.37% 3 5 0 0 1
      33 DDodge 930 -3,667 5 8 0 0 497 4 0.10% 0 2 0 0 5
      34 tpaullin 903 -3,694 5 7 0 0 391 1 0.03% 0 3 0 0 4
      35 KnektR 773 -3,824 0 5 0 0 395 0 0.00% 3 5 1 0 0
      36 Mike Grandy 742 -3,855 25 5 0 1 311 58 1.51% 2 4 0 0 3
      37 Pete_Reston 719 -3,878 10 5 0 0 536 65 1.70% 1 5 0 0 2
      38 Punisher6 593 -4,004 0 5 0 0 219 0 0.00% 0 0 0 0 5
      39 John Bayes 580 -4,017 20 4 1 1 408 176 4.59% 2 2 0 0 2
      40 Coorzman 425 -4,172 0 3 0 0 305 0 0.00% 1 2 0 0 0
      41 TMcDaniel 418 -4,179 0 3 0 0 390 0 0.00% 0 2 3 0 0
      42 Michael Shouler 405 -4,192 15 3 1 2 135 18 0.47% 1 1 1 0 1
      43 Don_Wilshe 402 -4,195 15 3 1 0 288 107 2.79% 1 1 0 0 2
      44 Michael Loos 379 -4,218 0 3 0 0 237 0 0.00% 0 1 0 0 2
      45 RDressler 373 -4,224 0 3 0 0 161 0 0.00% 0 1 2 0 2
      46 studmonkey 339 -4,258 0 3 0 0 198 0 0.00% 0 0 0 0 3
      47 MKnutsen 293 -4,304 5 2 0 0 246 22 0.57% 0 2 0 0 1
      48 brucek 288 -4,309 0 2 0 0 86 0 0.00% 0 2 0 0 0
      49 guido mielekamp 229 -4,368 5 2 0 0 71 7 0.18% 0 0 0 0 2
      50 ColinHarris 185 -4,412 10 1 1 0 160 105 2.74% 1 1 0 0 0
      51 TNA Loan 170 -4,427 5 1 0 0 159 21 0.55% 1 1 0 0 0
      52 D_Burnette 150 -4,447 0 1 0 0 158 0 0.00% 0 1 0 0 0
      53 RobertMSmith 139 -4,458 5 1 0 0 125 8 0.21% 0 1 0 0 1
      54 plowboy 138 -4,459 0 1 0 0 35 0 0.00% 0 1 1 0 0
      55 Marco64 138 -4,459 0 1 0 0 38 0 0.00% 0 1 0 0 1
      56 YellowJacketT 124 -4,473 0 1 0 0 105 0 0.00% 0 0 1 0 0
      57 DapperDan 115 -4,482 0 1 0 0 28 0 0.00% 0 0 0 0 1
      58 Phasor2K3 109 -4,488 0 1 0 0 31 0 0.00% 0 0 0 0 1

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Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Ed Solhei » Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:28:54

JUST A REMINDER:

RASCAR IS ****NOT****  A LEAGUE...  THESE POINTS ARE COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL.

Thanks!

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ed_

Gerry Aitke

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 16 Oct 2003 02:48:54


> JUST A REMINDER:

> RASCAR IS ****NOT****  A LEAGUE...  THESE POINTS ARE COMPLETELY UNOFFICIAL.

> Thanks!

> --
> ed_

Yep, points are truly the Devil's dumplings! All those racing for points
will be damned to hell without any supper. Non competitive motorsport,
whatever next?

My local school has non competitive sport too. They don't have races
where there might be a cry baby loser, instead they get the kids to
throw bean bags throw a hoop. They all get a prize, and there are no losers.

When I was at school winning meant something, but not as much as being
seen to do your best. I was proud to play footy for the school! No way
did I want to be one a the fat lardy boys who stood on the line in
games, blowing their snotty little noses, and waving a sick note from
their mums!

What is so wrong about awarding points for RASCAR? Are you worried that
a competitive edge will cause arguing?

--

Gerry Aitken

...and a friend shall lose a friend's hammer. - Book of Cyril, chapter
6, verse 16

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grub

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by grub » Thu, 16 Oct 2003 07:37:26

Disregard Ed's comments. He hasn't has his medication today.

Repeat after me Ed.

The points are official. The points are official. I'm a sour looser. The
points are official.

There, feel better?


Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Ed Solhei » Thu, 16 Oct 2003 11:05:20

"grub" said:

Oh,***OFF Craig!

Being a sour looser has *nothing* to do with it.

RASCAR was always meant to be a place we could all race for fun.
Once you start dragging points into the matter there will always be some
*** - me included - who get pissed off because someone ruined his
chances for the "championship". Or because some rookie (and we have always
seem to have a lot of them) didn't know what to do.

If you guys want to drag points into it, you'll have to do without me in the
management.
I'm here for the fun and the very last thing I want is a league.

Now you all know were I stand - the rest is up to you.

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ed_
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Larr

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:27:04

Yeah!  You finally got my Wins in there :)

-Larry


Larr

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:29:21

Yeah, but I'm on the podium so phhhhhtttttt!

:)

-Larry


Larr

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:30:26

You know, we can still not be a league and have points.  No rule against it.

I like the points thing.  Kind of gives you something to work towards.

-Larry


Larr

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 03:31:38

Jeez, Ed.  Who pissed in your Wheaties today ?

-Larry


Mitch_

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Mitch_ » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:13:38

My sentiments exactly.  What a great battle brewing for the RASCAR
championship between Neil and Ginger, 33 points with what 6 races left?.  Ok
Ed, un-official champion :-) 6th, 7th and 8th are battling hard also.

I just got back from Mart.  Turned a few 21.40's, the car was pretty stable
after a couple laps and I stayed pretty consistent throughout the tire run.
Im kinda looking forward to Mart this week  Have all the problems regarding
BF's/pace cars etc from previous versions been fixed in 03 Mart?

Mitch


> You know, we can still not be a league and have points.  No rule against
it.

> I like the points thing.  Kind of gives you something to work towards.

> -Larry



> > JUST A REMINDER:

> > RASCAR IS ****NOT****  A LEAGUE...  THESE POINTS ARE COMPLETELY
> UNOFFICIAL.

> > Thanks!

> > --
> > ed_

bluestringe

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by bluestringe » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 07:08:08


Man, I'm really slow at Mart. 21.6 was best I could do. Mostly doing low to
mid 22's. You really have to hit your marks perfectly every lap to have good
times.

bluestringer

grub

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by grub » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:29:48

Your right Ed. Being a sour looser has nothing to do with it. Just making
light of your CAPS.
But, since you are ready to take your toys and leave, it really sounds like
DejaVu from earlier this summer and some may conclude that it's real close
to being a sour looser.

Maybe Mitch can keep the points a secret and post them in a secret place
where all those that want to see them has access to the secret area and
those that don't want to be exposed to the points standing will not have
access to the secret points section. (Just kidding)

I know what you are trying to say with the points thing. In many businesses
that I do consulting with, the metrics that they have established and live
by drive entirely the wrong behaviors. The behaviors that points drive I
have not had any negative experience with but obviously you have had and
quite possiblly observed very negative behaviors with points.

I would challenge you Ed to work with the group on this one and try to reach
a consenus on the points thing instead of just leaving 'management'. If
indeed it is a terrible thing for RASCAR, I am sure the group will discard
them. Maybe they should be tried in the winter league? Help us work toward a
winning agreement that all can live by and play happy together. I just want
to have fun too.
grub


Eldre

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Eldre » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 10:41:32



>17 epickett 2,034 -2,563 15 16 0 0 1,014 3 0.08% 0 5 0 0 8

16 events, NO freaking top 5's?!?  And only 5 top 10's?  Dammit.....

Eldred
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Mitch_

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Mitch_ » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 14:46:17

Why dont you start racin on sats and add to them stats E?




> >17 epickett 2,034 -2,563 15 16 0 0 1,014 3 0.08% 0 5 0 0 8

> 16 events, NO freaking top 5's?!?  And only 5 top 10's?  Dammit.....

> Eldred
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> IICC League
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> ChallengeRank +54.48   MoC +743.77
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Larr

RASCAR: Points after 32 events

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:17:46

Which is even harder because someone is always in your friggen' way here :)

-Larry



> Man, I'm really slow at Mart. 21.6 was best I could do. Mostly doing low
to
> mid 22's. You really have to hit your marks perfectly every lap to have
good
> times.


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