rec.autos.simulators

Please don`t post pcx. files here as mr. busch can`t help himself
when it comes to clicking on the file,and it wastes at least 30 seconds
of his time.I really don`t give a damb if you do or not,but some people
don`t have a meeting place for a twelve step program for mouse abuse.

I personally have no problems with binaries either (I just ignore
them), but many use off-line newsreaders and it's not fair to force
them to download attachments.  Binaries groups were created for this
purpose.  It's just common courtesy to not post them in a discussion
group such as this.

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

I see your point, Eric.  But, it is also important to include pcx's like
the "flip at martinsville" for discussion....If someone makes a claim like
that...I WANT TO SEE IT.  

Also.....like the Daytona USA pictures that stupid Joel Putty put up.....I
was dumb enough to look at them....but I just had to look!!!!  I don't
think that there is anything wrong with posting binaries in this
group.....In fact, this is the only group I monitor!!!! And posting these
items leads to NEW discussion.....

While they can spawn discussion, they still don't belong in this group.
 This is NOT a binaries newsgroup.  It never has been, and hopefully
never will become one.  Why is this concept so hard for people to
understand?    

Is it asking to much to say something like, "Hey, I just say the
coolest thing at Martinsville.  I posted a PCX in
alt.binaries.simulators.autos and put a copy on my webpage, check it
out: http://my.web.page/flip.pcx"  

That way you still can see the pcx if they want to without having to
have them posted here.  Everybody wins.

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

AND, with the newest versions of free agent/agent, you can click on
the URL and your web browser will automatically bring up that web
link, without no more effort than double clicking on the highlighted
link in the message... (just as easy as downloading the binary from
the newsgroup)

   This is not intended as a flame, but for information sake...

On 5 Jan 1997 19:25:26 GMT, "Joshua Walsh"

   It sounds like you should get around a bit more on Usenet and learn
how things work.  Subscribe to news.announce.newsusers for valuable
newbie information.  When you understand that every time a *single
binary message* is posted to this newsgroup, it has to be transmitted
to and stored on many *thousands* of news servers around the world.
Taking up space that could be used by scores of useful text messages.
Causing some news servers to drop Usenet groups that they feel are a
waste of space.  All because a few uninformed, stubborn, or selfish
individuals don't follow the rules.  It makes much more sense to
handle binaries through proper channels.  Following the rules of
common courtesy and newsgroup etiquette don't hurt anyone (unless
you're John Daugherty; it *does* seem to pain him so ;).

Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking...  Did he complain
to five or six postmasters?  "Do I feel lucky?"  Well, do you, punk?

I personally have no problems with binaries either (I just ignore
them), but many use off-line newsreaders and it's not fair to force
them to download attachments.  Binaries groups were created for this
purpose.  It's just common courtesy to not post them in a discussion
group such as this.

Agreed. Mr Eric Seems too think he is the new king in this group.
More of my hard drive space is wasted on Mr Eric's Endless spewing
of his beloved Intergraph, and ***ing about CR labs,And answering all these
posts with his So intellegent and knowlegable replies.  hehe- Right. SURE.
That a few binaries is nothing compared too all his Hot Air.
I happen too enjoy a few interesting binaries and pix in this group, People
like too share a few interesting pix n files is ok with me. GO FOR IT.
Considering that The Auto sim binaries group is all spam and ***, knowone
goes there anyway.

    This is not intended as a flame, but for information sake...

 >I see your point, Eric.  But, it is also important to include pcx's
like
 >the "flip at martinsville" for discussion....If someone makes a claim
like
 >that...I WANT TO SEE IT.

    Fine, let them *discuss* it here (which is what this newsgroup is
 for) and post the binaries to a *binaries-only* newsgroup.
 Alt.binaries.simulators.autos was *created specifically* for that
 purpose.  If you don't have that newsgroup, you can request that your
 ISP provide it, or ask the poster to email the file to you or to post
 it to a web site or ftp site.

 >Also.....like the Daytona USA pictures that stupid Joel Putty put
up.....I
 >was dumb enough to look at them....but I just had to look!!!!  I don't
 >think that there is anything wrong with posting binaries in this
 >group.....In fact, this is the only group I monitor!!!! And posting
these
 >items leads to NEW discussion.....

    It sounds like you should get around a bit more on Usenet and learn
 how things work.  Subscribe to news.announce.newsusers for valuable
 newbie information.  When you understand that every time a *single
 binary message* is posted to this newsgroup, it has to be transmitted
 to and stored on many *thousands* of news servers around the world.
 Taking up space that could be used by scores of useful text messages.
 Causing some news servers to drop Usenet groups that they feel are a
 waste of space.  All because a few uninformed, stubborn, or selfish
 individuals don't follow the rules.  It makes much more sense to
 handle binaries through proper channels.  Following the rules of
 common courtesy and newsgroup etiquette don't hurt anyone (unless
 you're Eric T. Busch; it *does* seem to pain him so ;).

http://www.wizvax.net/jvincent/
 Before you send me UCE, I know what you're thinking...  Did he complain
 to five or six postmasters?  "Do I feel lucky?"  Well, do you, punk?

Hmmm.... That must be because people are not following the rules in that
newsgroup.  Sound Familiar???   Go there and get a preview of where this
group is headed.

Mike Radler

There is an auto-killbot that runs periodically and cancels binaries
in non-binaries groups. The problem is that by the way news
propogates, there will be many sites that will show the binary post
for a couple days until the post gets to the killbot and the cancel
message propogates around.

No two ways about it: discussion in discussion groups and binaries in
binaries is the way to go, but for most people who are relatively new,
they aren't aware of this custom. As they spend more and more time
on-line, they become aware, see the need for this custom, and tend to
abide by it (and thus metamorphisize from being newbies to good
net.citizens) Those who are aware of the custom and choose to ignore
it are generally incorrigible and time spent trying to educate them is
blowing in the wind.

I've said my last on this topic here (at least for a while), as this
newsgroup was not setup to discuss binary posting policy; it was setup
to discuss auto simulators...

 Further replies and discussion by e-mail...

---Jim Sokoloff, speaking for myself, as Papyrus has no official
policy on the posting of binaries to the net :-)

Actually I think you are the one full of hot air. Eric is simply pointing
out
some basic etiquette and you some back with this crap. I believe Eric is
one
of the more knowledgeable people on this newsgroup and I have found him
to be a nice guy and extremely helpful. If the person that posted the pic
does not have a problem with Eric's reminder then why do you? You
are obviously some little weasel that has nothing better to do than
insult decent people.

Regards,
        ---Wayne.

I looked on "http://my.web.page/flip.pcx" and di not see any pix...

-Andy

SNIPPED AGAIN

Just kidding :)))))

I don't mind it either, but it's not what RAS is for.  USENET is going
to hell in a handbasket, but *we* don't have to contribute to it.

In the meantime > CLUE <  Use this one, you seem to be without.

Neil
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