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Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

Matt Mye

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by Matt Mye » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Adam or Charlie,

It's getting fairly close to the release of NR2, and I wanted to start
pricing some 3D-video cards.  Can you drop us a bit of info as to
which chip set to look for, which to avoid, preferred card (maybe the
one used by your testers), or cards to avoid?  After seeing the
screenshots having the 3D effects, I gotta have it <g>.

Also, are you having to contribute royalties to Converse for using the
Chuck Taylor's in the uniform shop?  ;)

Thanks for any info.

Waiting patiently (what other choice do we have?),

Matt Myers
_______________________________________________________________

"Expressing individualism is just plain wrong!" - Crow T. Robot

David Spark

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by David Spark » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00


>Adam or Charlie,

>It's getting fairly close to the release of NR2, and I wanted to start
>pricing some 3D-video cards.  Can you drop us a bit of info as to
>which chip set to look for, which to avoid, preferred card (maybe the
>one used by your testers), or cards to avoid?  After seeing the
>screenshots having the 3D effects, I gotta have it <g>.

>Also, are you having to contribute royalties to Converse for using the
>Chuck Taylor's in the uniform shop?  ;)

>Thanks for any info.

>Waiting patiently (what other choice do we have?),

>Matt Myers
>_______________________________________________________________

>"Expressing individualism is just plain wrong!" - Crow T. Robot

Sierra Online just announced that they will be selling a Rendition-based 3D
accelerator. I'd say it's a pretty good bet that this will be the first
board that Papyrus supports. In fact, I'd wager they bundle the Rendition
version of ICR2 with the board.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Eric T. Busc

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by Eric T. Busc » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00

It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with
several boards.

Quoting from Bootnet's News page (http://www.bootnet.com/news.html) "Last
week, we reported that Intergraph was close to signing a deal with id
Softwares John Carmack for the exclusive rights to the accelerated
full-version of Quake. The deal, which was largely based on Carmacks
desire to own a few of Intergraphs workstations, was signed this week.
Intergraph will distribute the accelerated version of Quake, along with an
accelerated version of Indy Car II, in October with its Reactor 3D card
($199)."

About Sierra's new card, Bootnet has this to say, "In a move that calls the
viability of Microsoft's Direct3D API into question, Sierra On-Line will
offer a 3D graphics accelerator card based on Rendition's Vrit chip for
the holiday season. Although this move clearly puts Sierra into direct
competition with major peripheral manufacturers such as Diamond Multimedia,
Orchid Technology, and Creative Labs, Sierra claims it has no intention of
becoming a hardware company.

"We're not trying to get into the hardware business," says Sierra product
manager Scott Fasser, " we're trying to establish a standard." Fasser went
on to criticize Direct3D, saying, "there is no comparison between games
written to Direct3D and games tuned to a specific chip, such as the
Vrit."

Based on the prototype Vrit-based cards that have come through the
bootLab, it looks like the only difference between any manufacturer's card
will be the software bundled with it. Sierra's card, tentatively named
Screamin' 3D, will be bundled with Sierra's Indy Car II, Silent Thunder II,
and possibly one or more additional games to be announced later. The card
will feature 4MB of EDO DRAM and is expected to carry a street price of
$199. The Screamin' 3D is being built for Sierra by the Japanese
manufacturer Canopus and should be available in early November. "

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



Neil Yeatma

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by Neil Yeatma » Thu, 12 Sep 1996 04:00:00


> It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with
> several boards.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW:

Are all Rendition boards created equal?  

Is one faster or more fully featured than another?

Are they still fast Windows/GUI cards?

Are these questions covered on a web site somewhere?

Neil
--
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..


       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

David Spark

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by David Spark » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00



>> It looks as if an accelerated copy of IndycarII will be shipping with
>> several boards.

>DOES ANYBODY KNOW:

>Are all Rendition boards created equal?  

>Is one faster or more fully featured than another?

>Are they still fast Windows/GUI cards?

>Are these questions covered on a web site somewhere?

>Neil
>--
>Meek and obedient you follow the leader
>down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel..


>       Neil Yeatman, Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

I think Eric's post suggested that they are equal. I doubt this is a
situation where OEM's will be customizing BIOS and drivers, so other than
the amount and speed of video memory, I can't imagine finding much
different.

Rendition's website is http://www.rendition.com

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Eric T. Busc

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

I'm not sure about the Rendition boards, but 3Dfx looks to be in charge of
the drivers for all of the boards based on its Voodoo graphics chip.  They
will be making the drivers for both the Orchid and Diamond cards.  Marc
Warden of Orchid hinted that there was a difference between the boards, but
of course it would be in his best interest to say that.  With the same
drivers and chip (although I'm sure the other components will differ
slightly) the cards should be fairly equal.  Of course one board
manufacturer could wind up using much higher quality components and thus be
faster.  Keep in mind this is all just speculation, and we really will just
have to wait and see them in action.

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



Eric T. Busc

Adam or Charlie @ Papyrus

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 13 Sep 1996 04:00:00

From early reports, the 3DBlaster PCI (the Creative Labs Rendition board)
appears to be a very fast Windows and DOS 2D board.  As a bonus, it is VESA
2.0 compliant, so no more SciTech Display Doctor to get the hi-res modes in
Quake.  It looks as though the main difference between the board will be
the bundled software.  

Your best source of info on this subject is the
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video newsgroup.  There has been tons of
discussion about the upcoming 3D cards.  A rep from Orchid has done a great
job answering questions about his companies upcoming 3Dfx Voodoo Graphics
based Righteous3D.

For general info all the different boards and chips out there, take a look
at Dimension3D.  Its URL is (suprisingly enough):
http://www.dimension3d.com/

--

Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/




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