rec.autos.simulators

by **Bill Jone** » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:09:22

I've seen that some others have this problem and I do as well. It's
happened about 6 times since installing the sim on Friday. 3 times I was
running a single race at Daytona, got through the practice, qualifying, and
happy hour - click on the Drive button for the actual race, and ... just an
empty black screen and the computer is rebooting!

This is a new system I put together in December, so there's hardly been time
to ***it up with demos and downloads and whatever. System specs:

Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard (w/integrated audio)
P4 2.53GHz CPU
512MB PC2700 DDR (Crucial)
ATI Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB video card
Pioneer DVD-106S slot-load DVD drive
Windows XP Home
DirectX 8.1a
ATI Catalyst 2.5 drivers

So, next I upgraded to DirectX 9, and the ATI Catalyst 3.1 drivers.

Now I could actually run the Daytona race, but got two more rebooting
incidents while in the middle of the race, both during accidents. Really
strange.

Finally, I was able to complete a 20-lap race, I think maybe because there
were no accidents. ;-) This new sim has killer graphics and physics -
easily the most realistic of any sim I've ever tried, but on the other hand,
I've never seen any PC game reboot a system like this one is doing.

I saw something on the Papy NR2003 forum, where some guys were experimenting
with lowering the DirectX hardware sound acceleration until the problem
stops. Does that sound right? I'm not sure I want to do that, but if
that's the answer, then I guess I would.

Anyone have other ideas?

-Bill J.

by **Adam** » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 14:35:53

Bill, I had this exact same issue....it was really annoying, anytime I
clicked on Drive it would immediately reboot. I went and downloaded the
latest VIA drivers for my mothervoard and it fixed the problem.....I don't
think your board has the via chipset, but try downloading the latest drivers
for your board (probably intel chipset).

by **Joachim Trens** » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 16:56:23

Bill, the solution you mention could be worth a try. It's at least a valid
possibility.

Achim

by **Marc Collin** » Wed, 19 Feb 2003 23:06:34

Integrated audio is meant for office beeps and bloops. If you intend to run
games and sims, you should get a real sound card. In the meantime try
lowering the acceleration and/or lowering the number of sounds in the game
to 1 (as an experiment). If those don't cure the problem, it is most likely
video-related, but you already have the drivers that cured most ATI video
problems for the rest of the gang.

Marc

by **Larr** » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:47:09

That's a bit different from what I have read, and what I have experienced
but only in that your computer is rebooting and not just dumping to the
desktop as mine does.

One thing has been in common. Every report I've read, and in my few cases,
it has always happened when hitting the Drive button.

Larry

by **Larr** » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 02:48:59

I don't think it's video related on my machine.

I've had it happen under both D3D and OpenGL, and with two different
versions of nVidia drivers (30.xx and 41.xx).

Since there isn't a whole lot in common that I've seen, I'm leaning towards
a DX9 issue, the one thing I can't do anything about :(

Larry

> Integrated audio is meant for office beeps and bloops. If you intend to
run
> games and sims, you should get a real sound card. In the meantime try
> lowering the acceleration and/or lowering the number of sounds in the game
> to 1 (as an experiment). If those don't cure the problem, it is most
likely
> video-related, but you already have the drivers that cured most ATI video
> problems for the rest of the gang.

> Marc

> > I've seen that some others have this problem and I do as well. It's
> > happened about 6 times since installing the sim on Friday. 3 times I
was
> > running a single race at Daytona, got through the practice, qualifying,
> and
> > happy hour - click on the Drive button for the actual race, and ...
just
> an
> > empty black screen and the computer is rebooting!

> > This is a new system I put together in December, so there's hardly been
> time
> > to ***it up with demos and downloads and whatever. System specs:

> > Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard (w/integrated audio)
> > P4 2.53GHz CPU
> > 512MB PC2700 DDR (Crucial)
> > ATI Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB video card
> > Pioneer DVD-106S slot-load DVD drive
> > Windows XP Home
> > DirectX 8.1a
> > ATI Catalyst 2.5 drivers

> > So, next I upgraded to DirectX 9, and the ATI Catalyst 3.1 drivers.

> > Now I could actually run the Daytona race, but got two more rebooting
> > incidents while in the middle of the race, both during accidents.
Really
> > strange.

> > Finally, I was able to complete a 20-lap race, I think maybe because
there
> > were no accidents. ;-) This new sim has killer graphics and physics -
> > easily the most realistic of any sim I've ever tried, but on the other
> hand,
> > I've never seen any PC game reboot a system like this one is doing.

> > I saw something on the Papy NR2003 forum, where some guys were
> experimenting
> > with lowering the DirectX hardware sound acceleration until the problem
> > stops. Does that sound right? I'm not sure I want to do that, but if
> > that's the answer, then I guess I would.

> > Anyone have other ideas?

> > -Bill J.

by **IQ_** » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:33:16

I had the exact same problem and I solved it by going to the start
menu, clicking run, and then entering "dxdiag", after this loads,
click on the "sound" tab and then move the acceleration slider 1 click
to the left to select Standard Acceleration. This worked for me

> I've seen that some others have this problem and I do as well. It's
> happened about 6 times since installing the sim on Friday. 3 times I was
> running a single race at Daytona, got through the practice, qualifying, and
> happy hour - click on the Drive button for the actual race, and ... just an
> empty black screen and the computer is rebooting!

> This is a new system I put together in December, so there's hardly been time
> to ***it up with demos and downloads and whatever. System specs:

> Intel D845PEBT2 motherboard (w/integrated audio)
> P4 2.53GHz CPU
> 512MB PC2700 DDR (Crucial)
> ATI Radeon 9500 Pro 128MB video card
> Pioneer DVD-106S slot-load DVD drive
> Windows XP Home
> DirectX 8.1a
> ATI Catalyst 2.5 drivers

> So, next I upgraded to DirectX 9, and the ATI Catalyst 3.1 drivers.

> Now I could actually run the Daytona race, but got two more rebooting
> incidents while in the middle of the race, both during accidents. Really
> strange.

> Finally, I was able to complete a 20-lap race, I think maybe because there
> were no accidents. ;-) This new sim has killer graphics and physics -
> easily the most realistic of any sim I've ever tried, but on the other hand,
> I've never seen any PC game reboot a system like this one is doing.

> I saw something on the Papy NR2003 forum, where some guys were experimenting
> with lowering the DirectX hardware sound acceleration until the problem
> stops. Does that sound right? I'm not sure I want to do that, but if
> that's the answer, then I guess I would.

> Anyone have other ideas?

> -Bill J.

by **Bill Jone** » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:05:00

Yes! Thank you. That works.

Do you also have integrated sound, or a sound card?

-Bill J.

by **IQ_** » Thu, 20 Feb 2003 21:09:43

I have the same Intel D845PEBT2 and I am also using the integrated
audio, If you disable "automatically restart on errors" you get a blue
screen detailing an error with the "smwdm.sys" file which is the
driver for the integrated Soundmax audio chip. The latest audio driver
on Intel's website is dated Sept. 23, 2002, so it is getting a bit
old. I hope that Papyrus/Intel/ADI can figure out what to do to
correct this so that this does not happen again.

by **Bill Jone** » Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:47:11

I hope they are aware there is a problem, so they work on fixing it. I
wonder if that driver was developed for DX9?

In the meantime, lowering the DirectX sound hardware acceleration doesn't
affect the sound quality, does it? Are there any adverse effects?

-Bill J.

by **Larr** » Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:01:38

Interesting. I'll give that a try.

Larry

> I had the exact same problem and I solved it by going to the start
> menu, clicking run, and then entering "dxdiag", after this loads,
> click on the "sound" tab and then move the acceleration slider 1 click
> to the left to select Standard Acceleration. This worked for me

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