rec.autos.simulators

OT: Oh, my!!!!

John Simmon

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by John Simmon » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:20:16



> Yeah, I wanted a Chevy Impala SS when they re-made them in 94 or so, but it
> wasn't in the wallet at the time.

> -Larry





> >> I am sometimes grateful that I can't even possibly fit inside anything
> >> smaller than a Taurus or Explorer.

> > I drive a 2004 Crown Victoria LX Sport.  Good solid car, fast when it
> > needs to be, and has the added benefit of looking like a cop car (to
> > keep the bozos at bay, at least temporarily).

I actually had a choice between a new Mustang or the Crown Vic, and
since I am planning on having to drive old-folks (my dad's getting up
there in years) around, I thought they'd appreciate the leg room of the
Crown Vic.
Mitch_

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Mitch_ » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 03:43:52

When someone is tailgating me I just get out of the way.

Obviously the tailgater is in more of a hurry than I am so why not just get
out of the way and let him continue in his hurry?.  Oh thats just too fn
easy eh?

Nothing I HATE worse than some POS activist blocking the lanes of a highway
just cause he can...  I know of ***s that get into the fast lane and go
slow just so he can watch people blow a gasket.

Mitch







>>> Manuver around accidents  Har har har...

>>> hell 90% of accidents are rear enders or left turns in front of others I
>>> "think".  last week a gal flying down the highway, just slammed on her
>>> brakes to make a last minute left turn, got ran over.  She had no more
>>> idea what the F was around her than the man on the moon.  But unlike the
>>> gal 2 weeks before she and the 6 passeengers lived to whine to everyone
>>> that the trucker was at fault.  Last time that scenario it was a tiny
>>> minivan, everyone died.

>>> I'll take that SUV, just in case my honey forgets to shut up and drive,
>>> because I wanna think safety...

>>> Another thing that f#cks with my brain is, these soccer-mom types, you
>>> know- in the big urban areas...  Got the kids helmet gloves knee pads,
>>> elbow pads, ***pads before the kids can even think about the riding of
>>> a bicycyle or skateboard (THem are strictlyoff limits without proper
>>> safety gear)  But just  2 minutes ago, while headed home from the
>>> Friggin soccer game, they all were buckled in, traveling 80mph less than
>>> 4ft from the next *** in front of them, on the 6 lane expressway....
>>> and dont even think about the Danger they were exposing everyone to, for
>>> what, 2.4 minutes cut off the 20 minute drive?  Get real, once again
>>> Cars dont Kill People stupid people kill people with cars...

>> There is NOTHING a person does on the road that infuriates me more than a
>> tail-gater. Absolutely moronic driving. I've gotten out of the car at
>> lights and given people hell for riding my a**. So tempted to just slam
>> the brakes sometimes, especially when the idiot is on the cell phone.

>> --
>> David G Fisher

> Easy Rosco, easy.

Steve Simpso

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Steve Simpso » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 06:31:30

Even the cities in the southern climates are full of them.  Most of them
never leave the city limits either.

Steve Blankenshi

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:30:07

No kidding - if only the morons would get how much better and safer traffic
flows when everyone reserves the left lane for overtaking and yields it to
anyone going qucker.  Just did about 1,300 miles of highway travel over the
holidays, and that about drove me bananas.  The ones who are wedded to their
damned cruise controls are the most comon offenders; they'll just sit there
mile after mile when they're going .02 mph faster than the car in the right
lane.  Sure they're passing; it just takes a county or two.  God forbid they
actually accelerate one or two mph to get around and clear the line of
traffic they've stacked up behind them.  I don't care if I'm doing 70 in a
50; if someone's overtaking me I'm moving over and letting him by.  After
all, it might be Surtees and you know what that means!

Just thought I'd get this thread back in RAS-mode... ;-)

SB


> When someone is tailgating me I just get out of the way.

> Obviously the tailgater is in more of a hurry than I am so why not just
> get out of the way and let him continue in his hurry?.  Oh thats just too
> fn easy eh?

> Nothing I HATE worse than some POS activist blocking the lanes of a
> highway just cause he can...  I know of ***s that get into the fast
> lane and go slow just so he can watch people blow a gasket.

> Mitch







>>>> Manuver around accidents  Har har har...

>>>> hell 90% of accidents are rear enders or left turns in front of others
>>>> I "think".  last week a gal flying down the highway, just slammed on
>>>> her brakes to make a last minute left turn, got ran over.  She had no
>>>> more idea what the F was around her than the man on the moon.  But
>>>> unlike the gal 2 weeks before she and the 6 passeengers lived to whine
>>>> to everyone that the trucker was at fault.  Last time that scenario it
>>>> was a tiny minivan, everyone died.

>>>> I'll take that SUV, just in case my honey forgets to shut up and drive,
>>>> because I wanna think safety...

>>>> Another thing that f#cks with my brain is, these soccer-mom types, you
>>>> know- in the big urban areas...  Got the kids helmet gloves knee pads,
>>>> elbow pads, ***pads before the kids can even think about the riding
>>>> of a bicycyle or skateboard (THem are strictlyoff limits without proper
>>>> safety gear)  But just  2 minutes ago, while headed home from the
>>>> Friggin soccer game, they all were buckled in, traveling 80mph less
>>>> than 4ft from the next *** in front of them, on the 6 lane
>>>> expressway.... and dont even think about the Danger they were exposing
>>>> everyone to, for what, 2.4 minutes cut off the 20 minute drive?  Get
>>>> real, once again Cars dont Kill People stupid people kill people with
>>>> cars...

>>> There is NOTHING a person does on the road that infuriates me more than
>>> a tail-gater. Absolutely moronic driving. I've gotten out of the car at
>>> lights and given people hell for riding my a**. So tempted to just slam
>>> the brakes sometimes, especially when the idiot is on the cell phone.

>>> --
>>> David G Fisher

>> Easy Rosco, easy.

rex rolan

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by rex rolan » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:29:54

You have no right to violate the law by exceeding the speed limit then
expect everyone else to accomodate you.

> No kidding - if only the morons would get how much better and safer traffic
> flows when everyone reserves the left lane for overtaking and yields it to
> anyone going qucker.  Just did about 1,300 miles of highway travel over the
> holidays, and that about drove me bananas.  The ones who are wedded to their
> damned cruise controls are the most comon offenders; they'll just sit there
> mile after mile when they're going .02 mph faster than the car in the right
> lane.  Sure they're passing; it just takes a county or two.  God forbid they
> actually accelerate one or two mph to get around and clear the line of
> traffic they've stacked up behind them.  I don't care if I'm doing 70 in a
> 50; if someone's overtaking me I'm moving over and letting him by.  After
> all, it might be Surtees and you know what that means!

> Just thought I'd get this thread back in RAS-mode... ;-)

> SB



>>When someone is tailgating me I just get out of the way.

>>Obviously the tailgater is in more of a hurry than I am so why not just
>>get out of the way and let him continue in his hurry?.  Oh thats just too
>>fn easy eh?

>>Nothing I HATE worse than some POS activist blocking the lanes of a
>>highway just cause he can...  I know of ***s that get into the fast
>>lane and go slow just so he can watch people blow a gasket.

>>Mitch







>>>>>Manuver around accidents  Har har har...

>>>>>hell 90% of accidents are rear enders or left turns in front of others
>>>>>I "think".  last week a gal flying down the highway, just slammed on
>>>>>her brakes to make a last minute left turn, got ran over.  She had no
>>>>>more idea what the F was around her than the man on the moon.  But
>>>>>unlike the gal 2 weeks before she and the 6 passeengers lived to whine
>>>>>to everyone that the trucker was at fault.  Last time that scenario it
>>>>>was a tiny minivan, everyone died.

>>>>>I'll take that SUV, just in case my honey forgets to shut up and drive,
>>>>>because I wanna think safety...

>>>>>Another thing that f#cks with my brain is, these soccer-mom types, you
>>>>>know- in the big urban areas...  Got the kids helmet gloves knee pads,
>>>>>elbow pads, ***pads before the kids can even think about the riding
>>>>>of a bicycyle or skateboard (THem are strictlyoff limits without proper
>>>>>safety gear)  But just  2 minutes ago, while headed home from the
>>>>>Friggin soccer game, they all were buckled in, traveling 80mph less
>>>>>than 4ft from the next *** in front of them, on the 6 lane
>>>>>expressway.... and dont even think about the Danger they were exposing
>>>>>everyone to, for what, 2.4 minutes cut off the 20 minute drive?  Get
>>>>>real, once again Cars dont Kill People stupid people kill people with
>>>>>cars...

>>>>There is NOTHING a person does on the road that infuriates me more than
>>>>a tail-gater. Absolutely moronic driving. I've gotten out of the car at
>>>>lights and given people hell for riding my a**. So tempted to just slam
>>>>the brakes sometimes, especially when the idiot is on the cell phone.

>>>>--
>>>>David G Fisher

>>>Easy Rosco, easy.

HockeyTownUS

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by HockeyTownUS » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:21:59

Bullshit! Here in Detroit, travelling I-696 and I-275 is like driving NASCAR
every day. Cops will pass you going 100+ and not think twice as you're
cruising *WITH TRAFFIC* at 85-90mph. Going with the flow is the name of the
game on freeways at least. Nothing worse than a speed limit at 65mph with a
twinkie holding off traffic sitting in the left lane going 60 because he's
below the speed limit.

I have not had ONE single driving incident in the last 17+ years I've been
driving. I may drive fast, but I drive safe. Speed limits are the law and
are ther to regulate the speed of traffic, but more or less a suggestion if
you go with the flow.

I *will*, however, block off ***s that drive to the front of long line
of traffic merging due to a construction site. Dipshits don't realize that
by trying to force themselves in only slows the flow and is more likely to
cause an accident.

I always thought they should offer a school for seasoned drivers with a
clean record that can pass a strict driving course and allow them to issue
basic traffic tickets to offending drivers. I know it will never happen, but
it would for one, encourage people to drive better so they can become a
citizen traffic cop, and also help stop the idiots on the road that cops
just aren't around to see and stop on a daily basis.


> You have no right to violate the law by exceeding the speed limit then
> expect everyone else to accomodate you.


>> No kidding - if only the morons would get how much better and safer
>> traffic flows when everyone reserves the left lane for overtaking and
>> yields it to anyone going qucker.  Just did about 1,300 miles of highway
>> travel over the holidays, and that about drove me bananas.  The ones who
>> are wedded to their damned cruise controls are the most comon offenders;
>> they'll just sit there mile after mile when they're going .02 mph faster
>> than the car in the right lane.  Sure they're passing; it just takes a
>> county or two.  God forbid they actually accelerate one or two mph to get
>> around and clear the line of traffic they've stacked up behind them.  I
>> don't care if I'm doing 70 in a 50; if someone's overtaking me I'm moving
>> over and letting him by.  After all, it might be Surtees and you know
>> what that means!

>> Just thought I'd get this thread back in RAS-mode... ;-)

>> SB



>>>When someone is tailgating me I just get out of the way.

>>>Obviously the tailgater is in more of a hurry than I am so why not just
>>>get out of the way and let him continue in his hurry?.  Oh thats just too
>>>fn easy eh?

>>>Nothing I HATE worse than some POS activist blocking the lanes of a
>>>highway just cause he can...  I know of ***s that get into the fast
>>>lane and go slow just so he can watch people blow a gasket.

>>>Mitch







>>>>>>Manuver around accidents  Har har har...

>>>>>>hell 90% of accidents are rear enders or left turns in front of others
>>>>>>I "think".  last week a gal flying down the highway, just slammed on
>>>>>>her brakes to make a last minute left turn, got ran over.  She had no
>>>>>>more idea what the F was around her than the man on the moon.  But
>>>>>>unlike the gal 2 weeks before she and the 6 passeengers lived to whine
>>>>>>to everyone that the trucker was at fault.  Last time that scenario it
>>>>>>was a tiny minivan, everyone died.

>>>>>>I'll take that SUV, just in case my honey forgets to shut up and
>>>>>>drive, because I wanna think safety...

>>>>>>Another thing that f#cks with my brain is, these soccer-mom types, you
>>>>>>know- in the big urban areas...  Got the kids helmet gloves knee pads,
>>>>>>elbow pads, ***pads before the kids can even think about the riding
>>>>>>of a bicycyle or skateboard (THem are strictlyoff limits without
>>>>>>proper safety gear)  But just  2 minutes ago, while headed home from
>>>>>>the Friggin soccer game, they all were buckled in, traveling 80mph
>>>>>>less than 4ft from the next *** in front of them, on the 6 lane
>>>>>>expressway.... and dont even think about the Danger they were exposing
>>>>>>everyone to, for what, 2.4 minutes cut off the 20 minute drive?  Get
>>>>>>real, once again Cars dont Kill People stupid people kill people with
>>>>>>cars...

>>>>>There is NOTHING a person does on the road that infuriates me more than
>>>>>a tail-gater. Absolutely moronic driving. I've gotten out of the car at
>>>>>lights and given people hell for riding my a**. So tempted to just slam
>>>>>the brakes sometimes, especially when the idiot is on the cell phone.

>>>>>--
>>>>>David G Fisher

>>>>Easy Rosco, easy.

Steve Blankenshi

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:59:32

Bzzzztt...wrong answer.  The 70/50 situation was hypothetical, meant to
convey the point that even if I were in the left lane at above the limit, if
someone was overtaking me I'd still yield the lane to them.  You see I am
accomodating, unlike some others.  Absolute speed is irrelevant; it's
relative speed I'm talking about.  Besides, it's not my job to enforce the
speed limit, nor is it anyone's who's not driving a patrol car and carrying
a badge.  It IS on me to drive attentively, responsibly and to do so in a
way that will enable the smooth flow of traffic.  All someone accomplishes
by blocking faster vehicles (and that quite often does NOT mean me) in the
left lane, for whatever reason, is to cause a clot in the flow of traffic.
And that's when it becomes more dangerous, with cars getting too close
together and dicey moves popping up by those who are blocked and frustrated,
like weaving right and left through cars at a higher rate of speed.  That's
where you get ugly accidents.  If people would just get off their high
horses and yield the lane from the outset, none of that would happen.
There's a reason all those signs (and laws, btw) say "slower traffic keep
right".  And it works so damned well if people will do it; everything goes
smoothly, everyone gets where they're going at the pace they choose.

This is probably a US phenomenon; I lived and worked in the Netherlands some
years ago and found European drivers far better about this sort of thing
(driving in general, in fact).  One of the funniest things I remember was
when this complete a**hole New Yorker I worked with got a ticket on the way
to Amsterdam.  The guy had no visible regard for others whatsovever; the
sort of guy who'd walk into a place with a queue fif*** deep and walk
straight to the front, elbow whoever was there out of the way and never
think twice about it.  And he drove the same way, constantly in the left
lane.  We were cruising at about 170kph on a four lane road posted at 130.
And he got written up for driving in the left lane!  Still makes me laugh,
even today...

What were those road signs over there?  Oh yeah; "Drive Right!"  Sounds good
to me.

SB


> You have no right to violate the law by exceeding the speed limit then
> expect everyone else to accomodate you.


>> No kidding - if only the morons would get how much better and safer
>> traffic flows when everyone reserves the left lane for overtaking and
>> yields it to anyone going qucker.  Just did about 1,300 miles of highway
>> travel over the holidays, and that about drove me bananas.  The ones who
>> are wedded to their damned cruise controls are the most comon offenders;
>> they'll just sit there mile after mile when they're going .02 mph faster
>> than the car in the right lane.  Sure they're passing; it just takes a
>> county or two.  God forbid they actually accelerate one or two mph to get
>> around and clear the line of traffic they've stacked up behind them.  I
>> don't care if I'm doing 70 in a 50; if someone's overtaking me I'm moving
>> over and letting him by.  After all, it might be Surtees and you know
>> what that means!

>> Just thought I'd get this thread back in RAS-mode... ;-)

>> SB



>>>When someone is tailgating me I just get out of the way.

>>>Obviously the tailgater is in more of a hurry than I am so why not just
>>>get out of the way and let him continue in his hurry?.  Oh thats just too
>>>fn easy eh?

>>>Nothing I HATE worse than some POS activist blocking the lanes of a
>>>highway just cause he can...  I know of ***s that get into the fast
>>>lane and go slow just so he can watch people blow a gasket.

>>>Mitch







>>>>>>Manuver around accidents  Har har har...

>>>>>>hell 90% of accidents are rear enders or left turns in front of others
>>>>>>I "think".  last week a gal flying down the highway, just slammed on
>>>>>>her brakes to make a last minute left turn, got ran over.  She had no
>>>>>>more idea what the F was around her than the man on the moon.  But
>>>>>>unlike the gal 2 weeks before she and the 6 passeengers lived to whine
>>>>>>to everyone that the trucker was at fault.  Last time that scenario it
>>>>>>was a tiny minivan, everyone died.

>>>>>>I'll take that SUV, just in case my honey forgets to shut up and
>>>>>>drive, because I wanna think safety...

>>>>>>Another thing that f#cks with my brain is, these soccer-mom types, you
>>>>>>know- in the big urban areas...  Got the kids helmet gloves knee pads,
>>>>>>elbow pads, ***pads before the kids can even think about the riding
>>>>>>of a bicycyle or skateboard (THem are strictlyoff limits without
>>>>>>proper safety gear)  But just  2 minutes ago, while headed home from
>>>>>>the Friggin soccer game, they all were buckled in, traveling 80mph
>>>>>>less than 4ft from the next *** in front of them, on the 6 lane
>>>>>>expressway.... and dont even think about the Danger they were exposing
>>>>>>everyone to, for what, 2.4 minutes cut off the 20 minute drive?  Get
>>>>>>real, once again Cars dont Kill People stupid people kill people with
>>>>>>cars...

>>>>>There is NOTHING a person does on the road that infuriates me more than
>>>>>a tail-gater. Absolutely moronic driving. I've gotten out of the car at
>>>>>lights and given people hell for riding my a**. So tempted to just slam
>>>>>the brakes sometimes, especially when the idiot is on the cell phone.

>>>>>--
>>>>>David G Fisher

>>>>Easy Rosco, easy.

Steve Blankenshi

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:07:16



<snip>
<snip>

Another thing that about did me in over the holiday.  Idiots trying to race
up the front of a merge, which is 100% guaranteed to cause a huge cluster
f**k traffic jam about five miles long.  I love it when a couple of truckers
will get side by side, well back of a lane closure merge and block the lane
so the morons can't get around them and***the whole thing up.  It's
beautiful... ;-)

Woodie8

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Woodie8 » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:12:54


> I always thought they should offer a school for seasoned drivers with a
> clean record that can pass a strict driving course and allow them to issue
> basic traffic tickets to offending drivers. I know it will never happen, but
> it would for one, encourage people to drive better so they can become a
> citizen traffic cop, and also help stop the idiots on the road that cops
> just aren't around to see and stop on a daily basis.

While I agree in principle, I think the reality would be disastrous.  If
you tried this, especially in a major city, you'd probably get off two
or three tickets before somebody blew your head off.  The type of person
who exhibits this kind of behavior is a sociopath, with no regard for
others.

Don McCorkle

Woodie8

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Woodie8 » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:19:46


> You have no right to violate the law by exceeding the speed limit then
> expect everyone else to accomodate you.

The law states that you must yield the left lane to faster traffic
regardless of speed.  So do common courtesy and common sense.

Don McCorkle

Seven Smile

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Seven Smile » Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:47:39


They're called Chelsea tractors in the UK - the only time they go off road
is when mummy parks on the curb to drop off her precious little darlings at
school.

Hans de Hee

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Hans de Hee » Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:12:05


> They're called Chelsea tractors in the UK - the only time they go off
> road is when mummy parks on the curb to drop off her precious little
> darlings at school.

Here in the Netherlands we call'em "PC Hooft tractors", named after PC
Hooft-street in Amsterdam, the city's upper class, high fashion shopping
street. :)

Cheers, Hans

Asgeir Nesoe

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Asgeir Nesoe » Wed, 11 Jan 2006 22:23:15


<snip>

You can find left land drivers over here too, but generally people are
aware of their driving and use it only for passing.

In germany and england I have frequently seen vast speed difference
between left and right lane which can make life harder for those of us
wanting to go a little faster than the people with hats and lorries in
the right lane... This excuses holding up traffic in the left lane for
10 secs, but not more. If you go 40 mph faster in the left lane, and
there are only two of them you can't really expect to be unhindered in
any way...

That kind of behaviour really isn't accepted at all here, and continuing
to do so will just get you a fat lip at some point. I have seen entire
queues of normal non-aggressive peopl team up against a bully. Those
moments are so sweet...

I know that misusing the left lane on the continent (we don't have left
lanes here in Norway. ;-) gets fined heavily and frequently, simply
because it has to do with safety. Regardless of speed.

---A---

Elrik

OT: Oh, my!!!!

by Elrik » Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:09:20


<snip>

Have to try "tailgating" you at one of our races !  ;o)

Elrikk


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