rec.autos.simulators

Papyrus:

It appears that NRO and TEN is a long long way off.  Even
if it is implemented it will be a long distance phone call
for most of us.  

Suggestions:

1).     Why dont you just put in an accounting system in HAWAII and
        charge us.

2).     Why dont you go ahead and upgrade HAWAII to NASCAR 2.

Don Wilshe, IVGA

While no one can comment on the timeframe of the NRO's release, what makes
you think it will require a LD call?  TEN can run over your existing TCP/IP
connection.  Assuming you have a local ISP, you would only encounter LD
charges if you wanted to use one of TEN's enhanced connections and there
isn't one in your local calling area.  BTW, from my very limited testing of
TEN (mainly playing Quake DM) I've found my account here at Emory to be
faster than TEN's 'enhanced' dial-up connection.

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DITTO!!!!

mykey

Nod, I think I too recall reading about a "non-competitive" agreement
when AT&T got ahold of "ImagiNation". Typical of attorney's :-)

Andy

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Ed

How about a 800# and a monthly charge? The turnout would be awesome!
I have been wishing this since HAWAII started. "TEN SUX,  and yes I was a
member for a month."

Just an unlikely dream,
Mike

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---Jim

       Although on the surface this sounds really great, I think that
unless Papy/Sierra were to have some major sponsership backing,
it would end up costing you more than what you pay in Hawaii long
distance charges right now.  The last time that I checked, for you
to have an 800 #, your customers are getting thier calls to you for
free, but you are responsible for a .13 cents/min charge to get that
customers call.  Now, add this to the need for a business to make
a profit, or break even for that matter, and what would it cost us?
.20, .25 cents/min?  Just some food for thought.

Take care,

Shawn Wise
Midwest Motorsports
ProHCS3 & HGNS3 on Hawaii

As far as new product announcements, I think that falls in the needs lots of
work category. Again, this is my opinion. If the guys at Sierra/Papy in charge
of promotion, adverti***t, whatever labor catogory they put that into would put
the effort into just providing the info the tech guys do. They would be 3 for 3!
It seems to me, this thread is more a plead for information.
Sorry for the long post. Thanks for taking the time to read it.
Regards,
Bob

Bob_Stanley on Hawaii
LightSpeed! MotorSports www.cfw.com/~aldhizer/lightspeed.html

Papyrus has historically been incredibly tight-lipped about upcoming
products. Sierra has historically been much more forthcoming. I think
this is one case in which the Sierra acquisition is a good thing for
you. (Not that Sierra does up to the minute releases, but if Papy was on
its own, you probably would know about Grand Prix Legends yet...)

---Jim

Bob wrote;
   I assume you meant 'would not'

Jim,

I sincerely hope that you didnt think I was blaming that on Sierra. I have no
idea who is responsible for what when it comes to how Papy and Sierra do
business.  Although, I would venture to say that if we continue to get just
little pieces of info here and there about product releases and thier status,
maybe Papy's way of thinking is better. At least everyone would'nt be so spun up
all the time. To put it in simplist terms;
You know how your dog gets when you put a piece of meat in front of him then
tell him he cant have it yet? He slobbers, wiggles, and generally gets
frustrated. Thats if he's well behaved. If he isnt, he takes the meat and
your hand with it. I realize I'm preaching to the choir here. Hopefully,
the information flow will get better. If not, it doesnt mean I'll stop buying
Sierra/Papy products because I still consider 2 outa 3 aint bad.  
Sit Uboo Sit!
Regards,
Bob

Bob_Stanley
LightSpeed! MotorSports www.cfw.com/~aldhizer/lightspeed.html