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NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

g_major_NASCAR_onl

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by g_major_NASCAR_onl » Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:00:00

This is one hell of a step backward from TEN!  Wtf were you thinking
Sierra/Papy?  Racing on TEN was a dream, now its a nightmare!

Oh, well looks like I'll have to find another game to play

What a disappointment

g_major_NASCAR_onl

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by g_major_NASCAR_onl » Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:00:00

It has very serious warping problems, They need a patch or bring back TEN or
a similar system, No rankings is not  cool either

Kyle Robert

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Kyle Robert » Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I hosted a bunch of races tonight with about 20 other people at Bristol and
Talladega and had hardly any complaints of warping. There was some great
door to door racing going on. To me performance is much better than GPL, I
never raced on TEN so I can't compare the two. I was hosting with 768/384
ADSL by the way.

Kyle


Marc Collin

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Marc Collin » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

How/why is it a nightmare?

Marc.


5th Docto

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by 5th Docto » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

exactly which part sucks??
the connection, the racing, what???
I have been online racing for about 24 hours now, and for the most part I
have enjoyed a good connection with a 56k modem.  Only a few times have I
been dropped.  Cant wait for a cable hookup.


Adam

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Adam » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

What are you talking about?  I've had nothing but good experiences so far
with multiplayer.


slw

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by slw » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Sierra/Papy did not own Ten, so its not thier fault that Ten stop the pay to
play, and changed thier name to pogo .
At one time, N3 was going to be on Ten but Ten screwed that up.

Jeff Eilan

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Jeff Eilan » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

i did some online racin last night and i found that where the host of the
race had a high bandwidth , i saw as many as 17 drivers in one  race i did
without alot of warp(no more than ten or gpl) i am on mindspring dial-up,and
usually had a blue connection on ten. If cable or another high bandwidth isp
is available, take the money you are saving from Ten and get a High
bandwidth provider and it will solve your warp, that would be my guess.
 As far as ranking goes it was nice to have stats, but if you can't catch
and pass someone else, it don't matter what he is ranked if he is faster
than you,  the frequent racer will know who is fast and who is not, league
racing is also a measure of a drivers skills.
Happy Motoring !!
Jeff Eiland   (Viman on GSB & Veiland on Ten)
Team Miller Time
http://jrfan.home.mindspring.com


Motorhea

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Motorhea » Sat, 18 Sep 1999 04:00:00

MAYBE THEY SHOULD LEARN LESSON UBIS GAME SERVICE
BEST SIM_SERVICE OVER THE WORLD
NO LAG (bad ping is made smooth "sliding", no car bouncing at all)

> How/why is it a nightmare?

> Marc.



> > This is one hell of a step backward from TEN!  Wtf were you thinking
> > Sierra/Papy?  Racing on TEN was a dream, now its a nightmare!

> > Oh, well looks like I'll have to find another game to play

> > What a disappointment

ymenar

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by ymenar » Sun, 19 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Hmm not really, in fact it's the worse implementation of prediction code I
have ever seen.  You see when your only 2-3cars on a track (only takes that
to get heavy warping, not 20+cars like on the NROS/GPL), the cars will
suddenly stop on a stretch without warning.  That's their prediction code.
Instead of continuing at a smooth pace, when a car doesn't synchronize with
the environment it will slow down.  Not slow down but actually "brake" in
less than a second.  When it gets back in synchro it will go back to speed
from 30-180mph in less than a second.

So let's say your 0.5seconds behind the leader.  The leader warps, he slows
down in your face in less than a second.  You have simply no reaction time,
and you get front damage.  He doesn't of course, since he warped and never
really braked in front of you.   Now a second of two after you see the car
get back to synchro and gain all the distance the prediction code lost by
slowing down.  So you will see the leader go to full speed at Warp speed
almost, a very poor effect that makes any real racing worse than N2 on Kali.

Sorry it's not a Ubi bashing, just a fact of their poor Game service
implementation.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Extract

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Extract » Mon, 20 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I've played well over 100 online races since the game came out, and I
would say only 10% of them had a warping problem.  Firstly its
important to ping the server you want to join.  If the ping time is
too high, then don't bother connecting.  When you do select a server,
take a couple of practice laps, if you see too much warping, then log
off, and look elsewhere.

Of course your connection makes a huge difference.  Yesterday I played
an online game hosted by a cable modem without any warping and in a
chat, drivers were from New York, Georgia, Alberta, California,
Florida, and Michigan.

Of course playing online is more difficult with those using dial-up
modems, compared to other using high bandwidth connections.  Maybe you
should call you local cable company or telephone company and see if
they support high bandwidth connections.

The rankings is a concern, but there are many good offline players who
begin playing online and are very competitive and should have access
to races, without spending so much time wading through rookie races to
gain ranking points.

Ex

On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:53:04 -0400, "g_major_NASCAR_only"


>It has very serious warping problems, They need a patch or bring back TEN or
>a similar system, No rankings is not  cool either

g_majo

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by g_majo » Tue, 21 Sep 1999 04:00:00

FACT: The majority of cable and dsl service are only available to a select
few, hell were Im at we dont even have cable tv as a service.

The cable and phone industries are monopolys so they do what they please
which is to give as few people as possible access to the services or
everyone would have high speed connections.

Larr

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Larr » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

They want to keep their amazingly overpriced ISDN services sucking us dry as
long as possible.

-Larry


Kenny L

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Kenny L » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

This response is for g-major....
FACT 1:    you're an idiot.  I'm sorry, that was kinda harsh...
FACT 2:    All major Telcom services try to provide services to as many
people as                                 possible at a minimum cost of
installation.  So only major metro areas will have
                    high speed services because the cost of building a
access system is offset by
                    the thousands of people whe will take advantage of them.
Here in beautiful                         downtown Silicon Valley, we enjoy
many services competing for our dollars.
                    Bummer that TCI is dragging their feet getting Cable
here, though.  I'm holding
                    out for cable, ignoring the many xDSL services here.

                    So, move out of that trailer in the hills.


Kenny L

NASCAR 3 ONLINE SUCKS!!

by Kenny L » Wed, 22 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Thats right Ed, and g-major, and all others, I deserved that.  I am sorry
for mouthing off, and it hurt to be plonked.  I vow to not abuse other sim
drivers again.
Kenny L.


> On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 00:55:53 -0700,


> >This response is for g-major....
> >FACT 1:    you're an idiot.

> >                    So, move out of that trailer in the hills.

> *plonk*



> >> FACT: The majority of cable and dsl service are only available to a
select
> >> few, hell were Im at we dont even have cable tv as a service.

> >> The cable and phone industries are monopolys so they do what they
please
> >> which is to give as few people as possible access to the services or
> >> everyone would have high speed connections.

> --
> * rrevved at mindspring dot com
> * unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m.
> * http://www.cabal.net


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