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AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

Chuck Lamphea

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by Chuck Lamphea » Thu, 14 Sep 1995 04:00:00

Hey, obviously you've all tried auto-shifting by now, sucks huh? For any
new-comers to the game, shift manually. I was at Michigan racing a 387 lap
race when the Auto-shifting on my Nascar caused my engine to blow from
RPMs, this really sucks!
David G. Marti

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by David G. Marti » Thu, 14 Sep 1995 04:00:00

I've been racing for several months now and have almost always used
auto-shift.  The only time my engine has blown is when I over rev in
4th.  This happened at Martinsville with my gears set too tall (if I have
that backwards, forgive me).

My experience has been that for qualifying it is better to use manual
shift, but during a race I occasionally down shift twice in a row.  A
nervous finger will do that sometimes, blowing the engine.  I've found
very few times in a race that manual shifting would help me.  The only
time I can imagine that it should is on restarts.  I could use it there,
but for me it is too much of risk.


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KWorcest

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by KWorcest » Fri, 15 Sep 1995 04:00:00



The nice this is if you have 1.2 you can switch between manual and auto
during the race. I think it is something like <control> S. Well, don't
quote me, but read the readme.txt

Kirk

David G. Marti

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by David G. Marti » Sat, 16 Sep 1995 04:00:00

I did not know this, but switching equipment between qualifying and
racing is unfair enough.  Just my 2 cents.




> >My experience has been that for qualifying it is better to use manual
> >shift, but during a race I occasionally down shift twice in a row.  A
> >nervous finger will do that sometimes, blowing the engine.  I've found
> >very few times in a race that manual shifting would help me.  The only
> >time I can imagine that it should is on restarts.  I could use it there,
> >but for me it is too much of risk.

> The nice this is if you have 1.2 you can switch between manual and auto
> during the race. I think it is something like <control> S. Well, don't
> quote me, but read the readme.txt

> Kirk

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         KK  KK    LL        MM MM MM MM
        KK KK     LL        MM  MMM  MM    RRR   AA   CC  III N  N  GG
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Mike5001

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by Mike5001 » Sat, 16 Sep 1995 04:00:00

What gear where you in?  Because if it red-lines in fourth, the engine
will still blow, regardless if you are using manual or automatic (not like
I tried it...)



Larry K. J

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by Larry K. J » Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:00:00



>>>>> >My experience has been that for qualifying it is better to use manual
>>>>> >shift, but during a race I occasionally down shift twice in a row.  A
>>>>> >nervous finger will do that sometimes, blowing the engine.  

I think you guys have it backwards?  I *think* what he means is that
sometimes he hits the downshift key two times *at once* sorta.
Instead of going from 4th. to 3rd. it would take him from 4th. to
2nd..  The replies I've heard so far don't relate to his post (I
think).  Just trying to clear it up :-)
Jim Sokolo

AUTO-SHIFTING IN NASCAR SUCKS!

by Jim Sokolo » Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:00:00

NASCAR Racing maintains the concept of progressive engine damage from
over-revving (or over-heating).

What happened is that your gears were too short, and you were exceeding
8500 RPM during the race.

Just like a real engine, you can push it past the red-line, but at the
expense of engine life. 9100 won't blow your engine immediately, but
over time, will blow the engine. That's why when you run 10% races, you
can get away with shorter gears. Running 50% or longer, you need to be
careful with the revs your car sees.

It's not a failure of auto-shifting, but a failure of the car setup to
match the race length...

---Jim Sokoloff


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