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by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:09:03

> > Same reason why Winston is having/had to pull out a drag racing. They
could
> > not sponsor two series so they sure were not going to drop Nascar. It
is
> > even tougher in Canada where Players has to get out all together
although
> > they are looking at creative ways of getting around that.

> > If you noticed when Penske was in CART and went to race in Indy, they
had to
> > take Marlboro off of everything including the uniforms.

> And who's fault is this ?

> Bet you were a beta tester for this law

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

The intent was to limit the exposure of a death industry. I beleive that
after another year or two the lieing rat bastards will have to cease all
sporting event advertising...so teams like Penske that swapped their entire
operation over to the IRL to follow the cancer-cash will be out of $$
shortly.
For a very cursory view of the story behind the Settlement, see Russel
Crowe's movie: The Insider, with Al Pacino and Christopher Plummer.

Mikey Andretti took the CART Team Kool Green to Indy(IRL) for next
year and Kool just announced they are getting out of Racing advertising
completely. Who's gonna foot Mikey's bills now?? Gotta buy new tubs, new
engines, new drivers...Cool!
dave henrie

by **Milhous** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:31:17

> > > Same reason why Winston is having/had to pull out a drag racing. They
> could
> > > not sponsor two series so they sure were not going to drop Nascar. It
> is
> > > even tougher in Canada where Players has to get out all together
> although
> > > they are looking at creative ways of getting around that.

> > > If you noticed when Penske was in CART and went to race in Indy, they
> had to
> > > take Marlboro off of everything including the uniforms.

> > And who's fault is this ?

> > Bet you were a beta tester for this law

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

> The intent was to limit the exposure of a death industry. I beleive
that
> after another year or two the lieing rat bastards will have to cease all
> sporting event advertising...so teams like Penske that swapped their
entire
> operation over to the IRL to follow the cancer-cash will be out of $$
> shortly.

Something tells me, though, that Penske will have absolutely no trouble
getting another sponsor.

Didn't Paul Tracy run a Mobil1-sponsored Penske when he first ran with them
in 1992? I wouldn't be surprised to see the Penskes running in
blue-and-white again should the cancer-cash be pulled from racing...

Ouch. Sucks to be them.

Milhouse

by **Woodie** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 21:06:15

>I guess it makes sense to those who wrote the law at least :-)

You're missing the point. Our lawmakers don't care a whit about making sense.
It all has to do with lording their power over others. We're practically back
to a ruling elite situation. The whole lot needs to go.

Don McCorkle

by **Goy Larse** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:44:44

> You're missing the point. Our lawmakers don't care a whit about making sense.
> It all has to do with lording their power over others. We're practically back
> to a ruling elite situation. The whole lot needs to go.

Careful now Don, you might getting turned in to the feds for suspicious
behavior by someone in the COPS system or whatever they're calling it,
pay special attention to the mail carrier

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 22:54:32

> Wierd laws in the US

The interesting question is "what came first... the laws or the
laywers"? ;-)

uwe

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by **Jeff Vince** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:26:33

Honda (according to "AutoWeek").

A week ago they were saying that Toyota might pay $30 million for
Newman-Haas to go to the IRL. The Andretti/Green - Honda deal should
be similar (if not more, to pay for Michael's and Dario's salaries).

Good thing we kept them furriners and the big-dollar motor
manufacturer's out of the IRL, eh? :)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

by **Jeff Vince** » Wed, 02 Oct 2002 23:27:23

Well, that makes sense...

"We'll let you advertise it, but only if you don't sell any here."

:)

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

by **Byron Forbe** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:16:37

> >I guess it makes sense to those who wrote the law at least :-)

> You're missing the point. Our lawmakers don't care a whit about making
sense.
> It all has to do with lording their power over others. We're practically
back
> to a ruling elite situation. The whole lot needs to go.

> Don McCorkle

I think you should reserve the word "elite" for those who truely are. :)

To the favour of the tobacco companies though, in a world where it is
common knowledge that it is horrendously bad for one's health, yet so many
do it, it indicates how many idiots are around.

by **Uncle Feste** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:54:35

> To the favour of the tobacco companies though, in a world where it is
> common knowledge that it is horrendously bad for one's health, yet so many
> do it, it indicates how many idiots are around.

And also shows the "value" in manipulating the levels of ***ive
substances in their products. The whole lot of them should burn in hell
(tobacco company execs). I quit in '94, after years of 3+ packs a day.
:-/

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by **Woodie** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:19:06

>Careful now Don, you might getting turned in to the feds for suspicious
>behavior by someone in the COPS system or whatever they're calling it,
>pay special attention to the mail carrier

I'm sure I'm already under close scrutiny, especially by the mail carrier.
Being an atheist libertarian NRA member with a poor ability to decide when it
is best to just keep my mouth shut does not make for a low profile.

MAJOR WOODIE

by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:29:36

> To the favour of the tobacco companies though, in a world where it is
> common knowledge that it is horrendously bad for one's health, yet so many
> do it, it indicates how many idiots are around.

it also indicates how desolate the living conditions in our
culture are that so many people take *** in order to make it
more bearable.

A smoke or two every once in a while (at a party or whatever)
is ok, but I'm really happy I managed to quit in 1994 after ten
years of smoking.

regards, uwe

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by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:34:39

"Woodie 83" <

> >Careful now Don, you might getting turned in to the feds for suspicious
> >behavior by someone in the COPS system or whatever they're calling it,
> >pay special attention to the mail carrier

> I'm sure I'm already under close scrutiny, especially by the mail carrier.
> Being an atheist libertarian NRA member with a poor ability to decide when
it
> is best to just keep my mouth shut does not make for a low profile.

> MAJOR WOODIE

I don't wanna get ya paranoid Woodie, but, you DO know there are
several United States Postal Workers here in this newsgroup don't you?
Heck I always figured my stance against kite-flying F-10 view, outside of
the car-types has probably dinged the ol FBI mainframe a few times. After
all, as a self described***pit Nazi, combining those two words in the same
message must have triggered some snoop program. :)

dave henrie
USPS Letter Carrier
(yes the walking kind)
(yes I have bad feet)
(yes I have been bitten)
(yes I have lost somebody's welfare check)
(yes I'm watching you....ALL of you!!!) lol!!!

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:39:20

"Uwe Schuerkamp"

Good for you Uwe. I gave up smoking almost right away... When I
was about 4 I tried to smoke but gave up after the 3rd ciggarette when the
brown part kept falling off the white part cuz I bit down too hard. Figured
it was too technical a procedure for me and that-was-that.
Back in the old Commodore C-64 days, I had a friend who had a
golf-game.(it took longer to load the screens than to play the game) He was
much better at it than I, but I usually won. Why? I wouldn't let him smoke
til we were through and by the 15th hole he would be a shakey wreck. :)
dave henrie

by **Eldre** » Fri, 04 Oct 2002 04:50:38

>> Wierd laws in the US

>The interesting question is "what came first... the laws or the
>laywers"? ;-)

Enterprising individuals created a niche market that now makes them
indispensable...<g>

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 04 Oct 2002 04:50:35

writes:

>> To the favour of the tobacco companies though, in a world where it is
>> common knowledge that it is horrendously bad for one's health, yet so many
>> do it, it indicates how many idiots are around.

>And also shows the "value" in manipulating the levels of ***ive
>substances in their products. The whole lot of them should burn in hell
>(tobacco company execs). I quit in '94, after years of 3+ packs a day.
> :-/

I've never understood the willingness of people to inhale toxic smoke. :-(
***ions? That stuff can KILL... Why the hell would ANYONE smoke?

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