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Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

JM

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by JM » Mon, 23 Jul 2001 05:16:22





> > But if I get in the Mini in GT2, it's the nearest thing I've ever
> > experienced in a game to driving a real one.  the GT series may not be
great
> > simulations, but they are sims, by any definition.

> Again, the GT3 as a sim folks seem to not take into account the entire
> simulation package.  I agree that GT3 can be discussed as a sim if you
> are just talking about driving (although I don't think it is, but I can
> at least see how folks could), but as an entire package it is much less
> of a sim than RC2000.  That's my point.

I think you're shifting the goalposts to suit yourself.  You were saying
"sim", not "rally sim" or "racing sim".
RC2000 doesn't offer anything other than realistic stage lengths and pretty
scenery.  That is ALL it offers in terms of a rally sim.  Everything else
about the game, from the physics, the cars, the service points, the lack of
setup options, the inability to progress to the next rally without finishing
high in the previous have NOTHING to do with the way a real BRC calendar
would be run.

The tag line for GT was/is "The real driving simulator" it does that
adequately.
GT offers myriad setup options for all aspects of the car engine,
transmission, suspension etc etc etc that RC2000 doesn't even scratch at.

Maybe you need to provide a list of what you think has to be in a game for
it to be a "sim" as it's obviously different to mine.

I wouldn't even mention RC2000 in the same breath as N4 or GPL.

cheers
John

Christopher E. Johnso

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Christopher E. Johnso » Mon, 23 Jul 2001 06:24:25



Neither would I.  But I can download tweaks that improve the game quite a
bit.

I am, however, mentioning RC2000 in the same breath as GT3.  I consider
GPL, NASCAR 4, F1CS, and GP3 to be sims of varying levels of quality.  I
wouldn't mention GT3 with any of these titles.  I was reacting to Joe's
original statement that GT3 was second only to GPL as a racing
simulation.  That's a silly statement IMHO <g>.  As silly as mentioning
RC2000 in the same breath as N4 or GPL.

Chris

Joe6

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Joe6 » Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:58:34


>You have a wheel on your system at WORK?!?  Must be a nice job...<g>

Best one I ever had. ;-)

I'm a game designer at Radical Entertainment up here in Vancouver.
We're just putting the finishing touches on our arcade driving game
"The Simpsons Road Rage" (PS2 and XBox).

BTW, if anyone here has dreamed of working in the games industry,
we're expanding. We're looking for good 3D animators and modellers,
and of course we're always on the lookout for hot programming talent.
Email me if you're interested in finding out more.

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment

Galley_SimRace

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Galley_SimRace » Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:50:56



>>You have a wheel on your system at WORK?!?  Must be a nice job...<g>

> Best one I ever had. ;-)

> I'm a game designer at Radical Entertainment up here in Vancouver.
> We're just putting the finishing touches on our arcade driving game
> "The Simpsons Road Rage" (PS2 and XBox).

> BTW, if anyone here has dreamed of working in the games industry,
> we're expanding. We're looking for good 3D animators and modellers,
> and of course we're always on the lookout for hot programming talent.
> Email me if you're interested in finding out more.

> Joe McGinn
> _____________________
> Radical Entertainment

Being a Simpsons fan I will keep an eye out for your game.
Although I am a software developer, I am not much a programmer.  I would
enjoy testing games, though.  Vancouver is a great city from what I
hear.  Good luck. :-)
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Joe6

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Joe6 » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:40:54

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:24:25 -0400, Christopher E. Johnson


>I was reacting to Joe's
>original statement that GT3 was second only to GPL as a racing
>simulation.  That's a silly statement IMHO <g>.  

I think it's a mis-read statement actually. I did mention that GT3's
force-feedback implementation was second only to GPLs (and on about
the same level of Viper Racing). There are plenty of racing sims more
realistic than GT3.
Christopher E. Johnso

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Christopher E. Johnso » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:16:17



OK, I guess I did misread your statement.  I don't really find any of the
FF very realistic, but I'll concede the point.

Chris

Joe6

Any R.A.S. die-hards buy a PS2 and GT3?

by Joe6 » Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:26:55


I don't think you're allowed to concede a point on Usenet (certainly
no one's ever tried it before!). You are hereby sentenced to five days
of web-only forums. ;-)

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment


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