rec.autos.simulators

by **Jon Van Ginneke** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> Xenophobic? Why do we use this word so much?
> --
> The Mocker

--Ever see the Moday Night Football commercial putting down German TV? And
then basically declaring America the best country...
--Did you hear Tony George's reasoning for founding the IRL?
--World Seires only has teams from Canada and America, but in Japan
baseball's very big they should have MLB teams...right?
--NASCAR fans say CART is so bad because I can't pronounce a driver's name
(yet all their names are also foriegn to N. America)
--Most Americans refuse to learn other languages because English is
considered the language

Why are many Americans racist? They are afraid of something
different....why are the xenophobic? They are afraid of something
different....
Notice a pattern....dig a little deeper and look at the people who "hate"
CART because of it's foriegn driver's and their success, where are most of
them from? Make the connection bud.

________________________________________________
Jon Van Ginneken

"Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up
with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, disregard of all rules, and
***ic pleasure in witnessing ***: in other words it is
war minus the shooting."

--George
Orwell

by **McKafr** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

what about Slick 'N' Slide tracks ? ;)

McKafre De La Rosa

ymenard escribi en mensaje ...

>>> NASCAR? BUSCH SERIES, GRAND NATIONAL? DIVISION

>Still, I really do think that exchanging tracks from previous titles will
be
>very easy. I just need more Hard Disk space now, with each title converted
>tracks take way too much space :) 400mb for NR99, 400mb for N2, 250mb for
>Icr2, 400mb for GPL . There's going to be all the N3 tracks + NLegends
>tracks now to convert to all the formats :) (but Im uninstalling N2 and
>NR99, so N3 will be around 1GB in size if I include Icr2 tracls, some
>N2/NR99 tracks not in N3, N1 tracks, NLegend tracks for N3, GPL tracks for
>N3!).

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

(snip)
(unsnip)

How noble, Chuck. Perhaps you'd like to e-mail that message to those in
Kosovo, Serbia and now East Timor. I'm sure that they'll be uplifted by your
message.

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by **Chuck Kandle** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> (snip)
> > Just remember, there is one race.
> > The Human Race. And one country. The Planet Earth.
> (unsnip)

> How noble, Chuck. Perhaps you'd like to e-mail that message to those in
> Kosovo, Serbia and now East Timor. I'm sure that they'll be uplifted by your
> message.

LOL Point well taken. Just ponder, if more people actually considered such things
as true, would those problems tend to appear more or would you tend to see less of
them? Seems mankind has chopped up the earth into countries much like urban youth
"groups" chop up cities into "turfs". And its just as ridiculous. Just as the
youths have no lawful claim on the land of the cities in order to declare "my turf",
and "your turf", the "countries" are also cut up from a planet not wholly owned by
those doing the sectioning. And if others weren't so stinking worried about
"lording it over" others, much of these power struggles would be non-existant.
Greed, power, racism, nationalism, it all stinks. And its everywhere on the globe,
I'll admit. But there seems to be a high concentration of each of those here in
the good 'ol US of A.

(Steps out of pulpit, while ducking throws of rotten tomatoes)

--
Chuck Kandler #70
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by **Chuck Kandle** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Thank you, Jon, I'm glad to see I'm not alone in noticing all this! It really
is unsettling to see how commonplace these kinds of attitudes have become in
recent years in the US, even to the point of being fully embraced by the
mainstream media. What gets me too, now, you can't even attend a race anymore
without a warplane flyover before things begin. If *that* don't bring back to
mind stories from pre- and early nazi Germany, I don't know what does. What do
machines of war have to do with a fun, enjoyable day at the races? Nothing! We
do such things to try & forget about such crap!

--
Chuck Kandler #70
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by **The Mocke** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Your right Chuck.
Can't we all just get along?
It would be so much easier if everyone spoke the same language. So I suggest
all post to R.A.S. should from here on be in Esperonto.

--
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by **Joel Willstei** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>It is TRU!!! N3 will have the fabled IMS !!!!!

Where did you read this?

Joel Willstein

by **Joel Willstei** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>That will be great!! Just hope It's not a shelf version from ICR....not
that
>it was unrealistic but just not up to the current graphics standards.
>Also hope they done away with the chicane wall at the Glen.

>Coot

I've seen post after post saying that N3 will have both IRP and IMS. Yet
none of the reviewers have stated that a complete list of tracks has been
released by Papyrus. So until such time as Papyrus releases that list,I'm
holding off any celebrating.

Joel Willstein

by **Don Burnett** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I believe a list of tracks was posted here a couple of days ago, and yes, it
inluded IMS.
--
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by D » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>I've seen post after post saying that N3 will have both IRP and IMS. Yet
>none of the reviewers have stated that a complete list of tracks has been
>released by Papyrus. So until such time as Papyrus releases that list,I'm
>holding off any celebrating.

>Joel Willstein

This is from
http://www.papy.com/n3/N3_index.html

Go there and read it for yourself, straight from Papyrus.

Now will you quit whining about if IMS is or isn't in N3???

YES IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is unless you think that IMS is called The Brickyard instead. IMS-The
Brickyard.

I can make it more simple if you want.

============================
How many tracks are included?
Answer:
With the addition of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, there is a total of 28
Winston Cup and Busch tracks included, all recreated down to the finest detail.

NASCAR? BUSCH SERIES, GRAND NATIONAL? DIVISION
Gateway International Raceway
Indianapolis Raceway Park
Memphis Motorsports Park
The Milwaukee Mile
Myrtle Beach Speedway
Nashville Speedway USA
Nazareth Speedway
Pikes Peak International Raceway
South Boston Speedway

NASCAR? WINSTON CUP SERIES
Atlanta Motor Speedway
Bristol Motor Speedway
California Speedway
Darlington Raceway
Dover Downs International Speedway
Homestead-Miami Speedway
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Las Vegas Motor Speedway
Lowes Motor Speedway
Martinsville Speedway
Michigan Speedway
New Hampshire International Speedway
North Carolina Speedway
Phoenix International Raceway
Richmond International Raceway
Sears Point Raceway
Talladega Superspeedway
Texas Motor Speedway
Watkins Glen International

by **Jim Bonewa** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:42:41 -0400, "Joel Willstein"

>>It is TRU!!! N3 will have the fabled IMS !!!!!

> Where did you read this?

>Joel Willstein

Go to papy.com

by **Mike Whit** » Tue, 07 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>says...
>>Took a look at that link and finally found out how many will be
>>able to race via Internet.... *20*. I've said it in a post
>>just a couple days ago, I never seen any info on the number of
>>internet drivers but a few people swore that 43 was the magic
>>number. <g>

>The claim by Papy is "20 or more" depending on the (servers) connection
>to the net, the speed of the server CPU, and the general health of the
>net at the time you are hosting. The beta was reported to have a maximum
>allowed online drivers set to 32.

>As usual, we have to wait and see what is really practical (given the
>different types of high-speed connections).

This is the piece of information that I find most appealing.

The idea that we can choose to increase from 24 cars (TEN's limit) to 32 (or
more based on the software's limit) as long as we are willing to get the
kind of connection required. The point here is WE can make the decisions
about how many cars we will support.. not a company with different
interests.

by **John Simmo** » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

says...

The complete list of tracks *has* been given by Papy - check their web
site. There's gonna be 28 tracks, including BOTH IRP and IMS.

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by **Mike Whit** » Wed, 08 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>> I'd love for someone to prove me
>> wrong, and they can start with converting the N2 Pocono and North
>> Wilkesboro tracks to N3. :-)

>I like your "challenge" approach.

>There is simply NO WAY anyone will be able to get Riverside to work in
>N3 before Christmas. Oh, and there will NEVER be a working Daytona (day
>and night pls) <G>

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>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

"NEVER be a working Daytona (day and night pls)"

I sure hope you don't believe in Murphy...

Murphy will see to it Daytona becomes available just before you can no
longer race.

by **Joel Willstei** » Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>Thank you, Jon, I'm glad to see I'm not alone in noticing all this! It
really
>is unsettling to see how commonplace these kinds of attitudes have become
in
>recent years in the US, even to the point of being fully embraced by the
>mainstream media. What gets me too, now, you can't even attend a race
anymore
>without a warplane flyover before things begin. If *that* don't bring back
to
>mind stories from pre- and early nazi Germany, I don't know what does.
What do
>machines of war have to do with a fun, enjoyable day at the races?
Nothing! We
>do such things to try & forget about such crap!

>--
>Chuck Kandler #70
>K&S Racing

For your information,the use of military aircraft flying over a stadium
before a sporting event,is done to pay tribute to all those that freely gave
their lives in service to our country. It's not done to show current
military power as was the case in Nazi Germany.

JA Willstein

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