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by **John Simmo** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I think Spa and Silverstone are also suitable venues. We need really
wide tracks. :-)

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by **Michael Barlo** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

hmmm, In that case, I can't wait! :)
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by **David Er** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> >>Personally, I'd like to race Riverside in N3.

> >Me too, 2 roadcourses just isn't enough. How about a GPL to N3
> >converter? Monza would be a blast!

> I think Spa and Silverstone are also suitable venues. We need really
> wide tracks. :-)

Wasn't it a just a couple of years ago that Mark Martin did a bunch of demo
laps around Silverstone in the #6 Ford? There ya go, a genuine historical
precedent! :)

david

by **ymenar** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

John, sorry to disappoint you but "au contraire", fortunately ;-) I don't
know if you are aware of this, but you can now convert any track to any
Papyrus title except SODA : Off-Road almost. GPL tracks for N1, N2, Icr2,
NR99. N1 tracks for N2, Icr2, GPL NR99. Icr2 tracks for GPL, N2, NR99,
etc.. If it can be done for GPL, it can be more easily done for N3 and NL,
which have a more standard file architecture (3DO and TRK) than GPL. Those
tracks might not be public yet, but you never know when they will be :)

Well you see the point. Papyrus has the same TRk and 3DO architecture in
their .dat so it's very easy now with the knowledge that track editor have
to convert tracks into any Papyrus sim. And in the future, I bet you there
will be a track editor which will be very easy and user friendly. Im 100%
sure of that.

I know some people racing GPL Monza with Icr2, Icr1 Brickyard with GPL, Icr2
Australia with NR99, etc.. Everything is possible :)

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by **ymenar** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

It's not a screw-up Jon, it is really in it. It seems that the Indianapolis
Motor Speedway Executives have been much more open to track licensing this
past year, according license to GTI, EA Sports and now Papyrus, with also
SEGA who will have the rights for a DreamCast/arcade title until ugh I think
2002. Now if only Daytona International Speedway would do the same...

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by **ymenar** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

You mean something like this :

http://simracing.8m.com/indy.jpg
;-)

P.S.: Please I have no relation with David Noonan, this picture is in
no-right against anybody :)

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by **TRUSRS** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Where can I get GPL tracks for ICR2?????????

by **Michael Barlo** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I like both styles of starts.. Standing F1 starts and Pace lap NASCAR
starts. Since NASCAR3 is going to be something like GPL with the
windows stuff, I wonder if it would work to setup pace laps for the
smaller tracks in GPL by doing some conversions? And the other way
around?

There are many things I like about NASCAR. The biggest thing being the
points structure. Wonder if the points structure could be converted to
GPL?

I'm sure that after really studying the differences, we could come up
with league races with the best of the two Sims. (If it's possible to
convert more then just the tracks)

Mike

> > I have a feeling everyone's gonna be sorely disapppointed about the
> > backwards and lateral compatibility (or lack thereof) with the N3/NL
> > tracks. It's probably gonna take a while before we can even make use of
> > the N3 tracks in NL, or vice versa. Personally, I'd like to race
> > Riverside in N3.

> John, sorry to disappoint you but "au contraire", fortunately ;-) I don't
> know if you are aware of this, but you can now convert any track to any
> Papyrus title except SODA : Off-Road almost. GPL tracks for N1, N2, Icr2,
> NR99. N1 tracks for N2, Icr2, GPL NR99. Icr2 tracks for GPL, N2, NR99,
> etc.. If it can be done for GPL, it can be more easily done for N3 and NL,
> which have a more standard file architecture (3DO and TRK) than GPL. Those
> tracks might not be public yet, but you never know when they will be :)

> Well you see the point. Papyrus has the same TRk and 3DO architecture in
> their .dat so it's very easy now with the knowledge that track editor have
> to convert tracks into any Papyrus sim. And in the future, I bet you there
> will be a track editor which will be very easy and user friendly. Im 100%
> sure of that.

> I know some people racing GPL Monza with Icr2, Icr1 Brickyard with GPL, Icr2
> Australia with NR99, etc.. Everything is possible :)

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by **Rigs** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> And MAYBE, MAYBE, we can get a conversion of IMS AND RIVERSIDE to work in
> GPL!!!!!!!!

> YEEEEEHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
> > NASCAR LEGENDS WILL FEATURE RIVERSIDE!!!!!
> > :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

> > Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

And maybe we'll have to pay $30 for a shareware converter!
YEAH!

And maybe they'll sue everyone for illegal copyright infringment!
YEAH!

And maybe a whole lawsuit will insue and Papy will have to shut down for
using it's license irresponsibly (ie. making it too easy to convert
tracks, modify tracks, etc.)
YEAH!

And maybe R.A.S will be left to pickup the ashes..YEAH!

I'll drink to that...C'mon, get real, put the beer and pretzels down for
a second and think. Daytona? Hasn't happened why? Very good. I'm not
saying this won't but just don't get your hopes and everyone elses in
the group high so we can come crashing down harder than Ricky Craven at
'Dega...

=-Rigs-=

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by **John Simmo** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

>> I have a feeling everyone's gonna be sorely disapppointed about the
>> backwards and lateral compatibility (or lack thereof) with the N3/NL
>> tracks. It's probably gonna take a while before we can even make use
>> of the N3 tracks in NL, or vice versa. Personally, I'd like to race
>> Riverside in N3.

>John, sorry to disappoint you but "au contraire", fortunately ;-) I
>don't know if you are aware of this, but you can now convert any track
>to any Papyrus title except SODA : Off-Road almost. GPL tracks for N1,
>N2, Icr2, NR99. N1 tracks for N2, Icr2, GPL NR99. Icr2 tracks for GPL,
>N2, NR99, etc.. If it can be done for GPL, it can be more easily done
>for N3 and NL, which have a more standard file architecture (3DO and
>TRK) than GPL. Those tracks might not be public yet, but you never know
>when they will be :)

>Well you see the point. Papyrus has the same TRk and 3DO architecture
>in their .dat so it's very easy now with the knowledge that track
>editor have to convert tracks into any Papyrus sim. And in the future,
>I bet you there will be a track editor which will be very easy and user
>friendly. Im 100% sure of that.

Read my message again. Ididn't say it couldn't or wouldn't be done, I
just said it would take a while. Despite the somewhat rosey picture you
paint, I'd be willing to bet that the tracks in N3 or not just
different, but different enough to make it a royal pain in the ass to
convert to or from. Sure, there's a lot of existing knowledge floating
around about existing formats, but it's ludicrous to think/assume that it
will be a walk in the park.

I want it to happen, but I'm not expecting any converted tracks to be
available until sometime next year. I'd love for someone to prove me
wrong, and they can start with converting the N2 Pocono and North
Wilkesboro tracks to N3. :-)

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by **Stuart Becktel** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Hope it supports dual procs cuz then my PPro will definatly be running
NASCAR 3 sessions all the time!
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> says...
> >Took a look at that link and finally found out how many will be
> >able to race via Internet.... *20*. I've said it in a post
> >just a couple days ago, I never seen any info on the number of
> >internet drivers but a few people swore that 43 was the magic
> >number. <g>

> The claim by Papy is "20 or more" depending on the (servers) connection
> to the net, the speed of the server CPU, and the general health of the
> net at the time you are hosting. The beta was reported to have a maximum
> allowed online drivers set to 32.

> As usual, we have to wait and see what is really practical (given the
> different types of high-speed connections).

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by **Steve Bevacqu** » Sun, 05 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> Pocono used to be owned privately. Don't quote me but I think it was
> bought out by the same people that owns 90% of the other NASCAr tracks.
> At least I remember something being talked about there.

> Mike

Last I remember was that Pocono was not for sale. The owner (forget his
name) said he had no need for more money, he loved the place and that he
was gonna keep it.

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by **Tracey Mille** » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

> I'd love for someone to prove me
> wrong, and they can start with converting the N2 Pocono and North
> Wilkesboro tracks to N3. :-)

I like your "challenge" approach.

There is simply NO WAY anyone will be able to get Riverside to work in
N3 before Christmas. Oh, and there will NEVER be a working Daytona (day
and night pls) <G>

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Jan, you really needed at least another 5 exclamation marks behind that to
give it the same e***ment level as the announcement itself. :o)

> WOW!

> Jan.
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by **Ed Ba** » Mon, 06 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 04 Sep 1999 20:27:07 -0400,

Roger Penske, I believe.

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