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Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

Don Scurlo

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Don Scurlo » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00



If it makes you feel any better, I recognized it for what it was. But you do
need to be careful when speaking of the Gods, remember what happened to Salman
Rushdie.

--
Don Scurlock
Vancouver,B.C.

Graeme Nas

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Graeme Nas » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Well *I* laughed, Frank :-)

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash

Chris Bloo

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Chris Bloo » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I think he is working on correcting the AI bugs. I'm not
completely sure though.

Chris





>>How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch?
Have
>>you asked him?

>>FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the
>>converted tracks.

>    I hope one of those updates is the Boot for the Glen!!  By
the looks of
>it, Track section 50 would have to be split up.  The entrance
would jet off
>of that and then section 53 or 54 would again have to be split
up for the
>exit of the boot. From there, I would assume the rest of the
sections would
>have to be remade or at least renumbered.  I have in car video
of the boot
>and could get many photos for it.  I'm also sure that the Glen
web page has
>elevation figures for it.  If not, I can get it from the right
people.  So,
>everything that's needed is easily got with the exception of
the programmer
>to do it.

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Tracey A Mille

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Tracey A Mille » Sun, 23 Apr 2000 04:00:00

What makes it even more difficult is that there are a lot of people
that actually think that warped way.


> Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey
sarcasm in
> the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs
to be
> spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful.

> Sorry for the misunderstanding.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------



> > Hum...  Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes...
> > Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm...  Ok then
I'll
> > explain:

> > You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper
that
> > comes up.  So I was referring to that toughness on developpers
when I
> > said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since
he
> > sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough
critics
> > as others do.

> > And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought)
quite
> > familiar to us on R.A.S. :

> > 1- Asking for a patch.  That one's so obvious I shouldn't even
explain
> > but I will.  When a new piece of software hits the rack, we
usually
> > find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch.  Now
since
> > Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where
was
> > the patch.  That's the first place where people should be
laughing, ar
> > at least smiling.

> > 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail.
Now
> > that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile
when
> > I see someone coming back with that scheme...  People find the
> > funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by
> > mistake" or whatever.  I agree that this one was not ment to
inspire a
> > loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've
raised
> > an eyebrow and smiled...

> > Oh well...  Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was...  I
think
> > I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few
> > months...  Sorry Bruce...

> > Frank (who's native tongue isn't english)

> > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence.

> > Francois Dubuc,

> > Simulator ***world,
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/

Bruce Kennewel

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey sarcasm in
the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs to be
spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------


> Hum...  Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes...
> Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm...  Ok then I'll
> explain:

> You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper that
> comes up.  So I was referring to that toughness on developpers when I
> said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since he
> sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough critics
> as others do.

> And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought) quite
> familiar to us on R.A.S. :

> 1- Asking for a patch.  That one's so obvious I shouldn't even explain
> but I will.  When a new piece of software hits the rack, we usually
> find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch.  Now since
> Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where was
> the patch.  That's the first place where people should be laughing, ar
> at least smiling.

> 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail.  Now
> that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile when
> I see someone coming back with that scheme...  People find the
> funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by
> mistake" or whatever.  I agree that this one was not ment to inspire a
> loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've raised
> an eyebrow and smiled...

> Oh well...  Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was...  I think
> I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few
> months...  Sorry Bruce...

> Frank (who's native tongue isn't english)

> On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

> >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence.

> Francois Dubuc,

> Simulator ***world,
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/

Francois Dubu

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Francois Dubu » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Chris,

Nowhere did I say anything about Dave working or not working on a
patch...  But from his previous work, I wouldn't hold my breath as he
usually starts working on new stuff immediately after he releases
something...  But hey, we never know!  I don't really know if there
are any bugs tho since I can't race right now due to a steering wheel
failure...  I'm scared I'll lose my (already not so great) skills at
driving a GPL car!

Frank

On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 08:57:57 -0700, Chris Bloom


>How do you know that Dave Noonan isn't working on a patch?  Have
>you asked him?

>FYI, I am led to believe he is working on updates for the
>converted tracks.

>Chris



>>1- Asking for a patch.  That one's so obvious I shouldn't even
>explain
>>but I will.  When a new piece of software hits the rack, we
>usually
>>find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch.  Now
>since
>>Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking
>where was
>>the patch.  That's the first place where people should be
>laughing, ar
>>at least smiling.

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Francois Dubuc,

Simulator ***world,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/
Francois Dubu

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Francois Dubu » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I try to be... <G>

Err...  Long live Dave Noonan!

Frank





>>Hum...  Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes...
>>Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm...  Ok then I'll
>>explain:

>If it makes you feel any better, I recognized it for what it was. But you do
>need to be careful when speaking of the Gods, remember what happened to Salman
>Rushdie.

Francois Dubuc,

Simulator ***world,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/
Francois Dubu

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Francois Dubu » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Thanks!  Makes me feel better!

Frank

On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:21:17 +0100, Graeme Nash


>>Frank (who's native tongue isn't english)

>Well *I* laughed, Frank :-)

Francois Dubuc,

Simulator ***world,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/
Francois Dubu

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Francois Dubu » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

If you knew me you'd know that I'm a very sarcastic and facetious
dude...  But next time I'll use the html tags, you know, the <sarcasm>
and </sarcasm> tags...  That should do it!

Now c'mon Bruce, beer's on me!

Frank

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:27:29 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"


>Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey sarcasm in
>the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs to be
>spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful.

>Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Francois Dubuc,

Simulator ***world,
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/
Bruce Kennewel

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Yes....and that doesn't make it any easier, Tracey!

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------



> What makes it even more difficult is that there are a lot of people
> that actually think that warped way.



> > Frank...it is extremely difficult at the best of times to convey
> sarcasm in
> > the printed form...usually because sarcasm and facetiousness needs
> to be
> > spoken (and obviously heard!) in order to be successful.

> > Sorry for the misunderstanding.

> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------



> > > Hum...  Once again, Internet's multi-cultural barrier strikes...
> > > Maybe my english is not good enough to convey sarcasm...  Ok then
> I'll
> > > explain:

> > > You guys are usually pretty tough critics for any sim developper
> that
> > > comes up.  So I was referring to that toughness on developpers
> when I
> > > said that Dave (who is now a commercial software developper since
> he
> > > sells software that he develops) should receive the same tough
> critics
> > > as others do.

> > > And then, I advanced a few examples, wich are (or so I thought)
> quite
> > > familiar to us on R.A.S. :

> > > 1- Asking for a patch.  That one's so obvious I shouldn't even
> explain
> > > but I will.  When a new piece of software hits the rack, we
> usually
> > > find all the bugs within a few weeks and ask for a patch.  Now
> since
> > > Dave's converter has been out for a few weeks I was asking where
> was
> > > the patch.  That's the first place where people should be
> laughing, ar
> > > at least smiling.

> > > 2- Asking for someone to send a copyrighted program via e-mail.
> Now
> > > that is something I've seen so often but it still makes me smile
> when
> > > I see someone coming back with that scheme...  People find the
> > > funniest excuses, like "my CD is scratched" or "I deleted it by
> > > mistake" or whatever.  I agree that this one was not ment to
> inspire a
> > > loud burst of laughter, but still I wish some of you would've
> raised
> > > an eyebrow and smiled...

> > > Oh well...  Maybe I'm not as talented as I thought I was...  I
> think
> > > I'll just crawl under my desk now and disappear from RAS for a few
> > > months...  Sorry Bruce...

> > > Frank (who's native tongue isn't english)

> > > On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:56:32 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

> > > >Oh, _ple-e-ase_.........don't insult our intelligence.

> > > Francois Dubuc,

> > > Simulator ***world,
> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/***world/

Chris Bloo

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Chris Bloo » Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Sorry Francois, I was even more stupid as I didn't even get it
after your second post.  :'

Chris

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Goy Larse

Looking for a copy of David Noonan's GPL converter

by Goy Larse » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> Chris,

> Nowhere did I say anything about Dave working or not working on a
> patch...  But from his previous work, I wouldn't hold my breath as he
> usually starts working on new stuff immediately after he releases
> something...  But hey, we never know!  I don't really know if there
> are any bugs tho since I can't race right now due to a steering wheel
> failure...  I'm scared I'll lose my (already not so great) skills at
> driving a GPL car!

This is not to say that he is working on a patch, I don't know whether
or not he is, but for his ICR2->N2 converter he released some AI
updates, so to say he don't improve on his already released products
isn't totally accurate :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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