rec.autos.simulators

> Read it again for the first time!

> Jon

> > And?
> > I stand by my original question...show me evidence of any unit other
than
> > American which fought in the Spa area.

> > Unless it was a British platoon that became detached from the main
British
> > force and horribly lost, there were no units other than American (and
> > German, of course) in that area.
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > From a man who fought in the war...
> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > > Jon

> > > > If you can find any evidence of any of those nationalities fighting
in
> > or
> > > > around that region ("Spa") in WWII, please point me in that
direction.

> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > You may also like to remember the British, Canadian, Australian,
> > Polish,
> > > > > French, Belgian, Dutch and Nepalese soldiers who fought as well.
> > > > Apologies
> > > > > to any nation who I may have missed out.

> > > > > Cheers

> > > > > Phil

> > > > > > I was recently reading the history of my father's unit in WW-II
> (the
> > > > > > 99th U.S. Infantry Div.) and their part in the Battle of the
> Bulge.
> > > > > > They held a position on Elsenborn Ridge in Belgium. When I
looked
> at
> > a
> > > > > > map that showed information on the battle lines, I was surprised
> > when
> > > > > > the names of the nearby towns just leaped out at me -- Stavelot,
> > > > > > Malmedy, Lingueville. These were just a few miles from
Elsenborn.
> I
> > > > > > wonder if he actually went through or near these towns during
> > > > > > his "travels" in 1944-45?

> > > > > > It's strange to ponder that they were holding international
races
> in
> > > > > > this area just a few years after so many American and German
> > soldiers
> > > > > > had lost their lives in the fierce fighting of those times...

> > > > > >   Doug Gordon

> > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > > > > > Before you buy.

> http://www.heartofeurope.com/bulgeinc.html
> Enjoy...

> Jon

> > I have, Jon and can only assume that you are directing my attention to
the
> > "within a few miles of" phrase?
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Kennewell,
> > Canberra, Australia.
> > ---------------------------

> > > Read it again for the first time!

> > > Jon

> > > > And?
> > > > I stand by my original question...show me evidence of any unit other
> > than
> > > > American which fought in the Spa area.

> > > > Unless it was a British platoon that became detached from the main
> > British
> > > > force and horribly lost, there were no units other than American
(and
> > > > German, of course) in that area.
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > From a man who fought in the war...
> > > > > http://www.mm.com/user/jpk/battle.htm

> > > > > Jon

> > > > > > If you can find any evidence of any of those nationalities
> fighting
> > in
> > > > or
> > > > > > around that region ("Spa") in WWII, please point me in that
> > direction.

> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Bruce Kennewell,
> > > > > > Canberra, Australia.
> > > > > > ---------------------------

> > > > > > > You may also like to remember the British, Canadian,
Australian,
> > > > Polish,
> > > > > > > French, Belgian, Dutch and Nepalese soldiers who fought as
well.
> > > > > > Apologies
> > > > > > > to any nation who I may have missed out.

> > > > > > > Cheers

> > > > > > > Phil

> > > > > > > > I was recently reading the history of my father's unit in
> WW-II
> > > (the
> > > > > > > > 99th U.S. Infantry Div.) and their part in the Battle of the
> > > Bulge.
> > > > > > > > They held a position on Elsenborn Ridge in Belgium. When I
> > looked
> > > at
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > map that showed information on the battle lines, I was
> surprised
> > > > when
> > > > > > > > the names of the nearby towns just leaped out at me --
> Stavelot,
> > > > > > > > Malmedy, Lingueville. These were just a few miles from
> > Elsenborn.
> > > I
> > > > > > > > wonder if he actually went through or near these towns
during
> > > > > > > > his "travels" in 1944-45?

> > > > > > > > It's strange to ponder that they were holding international
> > races
> > > in
> > > > > > > > this area just a few years after so many American and German
> > > > soldiers
> > > > > > > > had lost their lives in the fierce fighting of those
times...

> > > > > > > >   Doug Gordon

> > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > > > > > > Before you buy.

> The Battle of the Bulge was a German attack against the American 1st Army.
> The Americans lost close to 80,000 men there. The British were also
> involved, but to a much lesser degree, losing about 1,400 men.

> So, please forgive Doug for writing about this as a German/American battle,
> and *** you.

> Regards,
> Gordon

> > >It's strange to ponder that they were holding international races in
> > >this area just a few years after so many American and German soldiers
> > >had lost their lives in the fierce fighting of those times...

> > Try renting films other than "hollywood history" Saving Private Ryan.
> There
> > were other's soldiers around.

> > Z.

> > Please remove my_pants when replying.

>I was recently reading the history of my father's unit in WW-II (the
>99th U.S. Infantry Div.) and their part in the Battle of the Bulge.
>They held a position on Elsenborn Ridge in Belgium. When I looked at a
>map that showed information on the battle lines, I was surprised when
>the names of the nearby towns just leaped out at me -- Stavelot,
>Malmedy, Lingueville. These were just a few miles from Elsenborn. I
>wonder if he actually went through or near these towns during
>his "travels" in 1944-45?

>It's strange to ponder that they were holding international races in
>this area just a few years after so many American and German soldiers
>had lost their lives in the fierce fighting of those times...

>  Doug Gordon

>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

> That's very interesting Doug. I bet there were quiet a few pondering just
> that thought on that first race there after the war.
>  I was wondering where you got your information on your Dads particular
unit
> from? I would like to find out some info about my Dad as well and where
his
> unit went.
>  I know he landed on Omaha beach on his birthday as a tank commander and
got
> his tracks blown off which put him back a couple days. I know he was among
> those who first ran upon and liberated one of the consentration camps. I
> have some very disturbing photos he took.  I also know he married the
first
> German war bride of WWII (my Mom still has the newspaper clipping) But I
> don't know too much more except that he won a bronze star. He didn't like
to
> talk about it much from what I understand. He died when I was only 8 yrs
> old. He was forced to take a shower(s?) in DDT in the war. And also  to go
> though other chemical chambers. I'm not exactly sure why he had to do
this,
> but my Mom had to prove these things in court after he died from 13
> different cancers to be able to get some of his pension. I still get the
> chance to hear stories from my Mom though. What it was like growing up as
a
> poor German girl in Nuremberg. Living though the bombings, losing a
brother
> on the Eastern front, another in a JU87, another (still alive now) who was
> captured.
>  Makes you sure feel lucky, almost to the point of guilt that we didn't
have
> to live or fight in that war.

>  Jim D.

> >I was recently reading the history of my father's unit in WW-II (the
> >99th U.S. Infantry Div.) and their part in the Battle of the Bulge.
> >They held a position on Elsenborn Ridge in Belgium. When I looked at a
> >map that showed information on the battle lines, I was surprised when
> >the names of the nearby towns just leaped out at me -- Stavelot,
> >Malmedy, Lingueville. These were just a few miles from Elsenborn. I
> >wonder if he actually went through or near these towns during
> >his "travels" in 1944-45?

> >It's strange to ponder that they were holding international races in
> >this area just a few years after so many American and German soldiers
> >had lost their lives in the fierce fighting of those times...

> >  Doug Gordon

> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Before you buy.