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CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

Thor

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Thor » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 09:41:42

Now was the time for it...tonight I upgraded my PC from:

Athlon 1000 to a AMD XP 1800+...
256MB to 512MB (PC133)

Win98SE is running OK...RM, STCC, V8C, SCGT etc is running fine...
But the Alfa147mod for F1-2002 Crashes To Desktop occasionally...
...especialley on Magny-Cours and Nrburgring (short/modern)

I upgraded the driver for my Geforce2 MX-400 from version 6.50 (!) which
have run on my system for ages (2 years or so)...to 21.83, 22.50, 30.82
etc...and back to 6.50...but nothing seems to work...:(

any ideas?

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Venlig hilsen / Best regards

Dave Henri

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Dave Henri » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 10:43:33


   Upgrading systems often brings in unstabilities.  I had a huge problem
last Febuary when I moved up.  Several things could be happening.
  1.  When adding the cpu & memory, your system may have needed some new
files for them to properly intergrate with your system.
  2.  You may have had new files installed automatically that overwrote
critical files from your previous setup.
  3.  In changing so many drivers, you may have not completely removed the
old ones and the various versions are all fighting it out amonst themselves.
  4.  Myself, and several others have found the new memory to be partially
defective.(it works sometimes and crashes others)

  So first things first.  the whql 30.8x drivers should be very stable.  So
make sure you properly remove any old driver first.  then do a check for
files that start with NV  i.e. find nv*.*  and delete those and use a
utility like detonator destroyer to kill any remaining lost files.
  then re-install the 30.82  or .83's whatever the whql version is.

   If you still get lockups, I'd take out the new memory and see if the
lockups disappear, if they do...that's a good indicator of bad memory, there
are some utils that check memory but I don't have any experience with them.

   also check for irq conflicts.  When you put in the new stuff, windows may
have moved stuff around, video and sound cards should NOT share irq's with
other devices.
  Keep asking if we don't solve the problems.
dave henrie

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Aide

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Aide » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 11:51:23

Nice advice Dave....my brother is having similar problems...crashes and
freezes for no reason.

How do you change the IRQ positions..?

At present he has GF3 ti 200 and his USB Controller on IRQ 19...

We think we have narrowed his problem down to his ADSL modem,Alcatel
Speedtouch USB.

His pc kept crashing etc,his modem speed was down to 15/20kb/sec...

Then i leant him my pc....same result...crashing,freezing.

His pc is here with me at the moment...not crashed once or frozen.

Only problem i have found is that as he said...it doesnt often restart or
switch off properly...2 out of 10 i reckon....this obviously leads to
constant Scandisk at Start up.

So as the modem is the only common link....we have settled on that being the
problem...sound right..? :)

But i would like all his hardware to have different IRQ's..

TIA

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Dave Henri

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Dave Henri » Mon, 25 Nov 2002 12:59:07

"Aidee"
   The sharing of an irq is possibly the problem.  There are two ways of
changing the irq.  Move the card to another slot or use the windows device
manager to re-assign the irq resources.  The second method is not always
possible as some hardware drivers will not allow moving the irq.
  Generally the video card takes the #11 irq.  so that's odd that it's
assigned to #19.    The desparate approach is to yank all the cards
out(after removing them from the device manager first) and then installing
ONLY the video card.  Then the sound card...then any other cards one by one.
  Good Luck
dave henrie

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Thor

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Thor » Tue, 26 Nov 2002 18:36:39


>Now was the time for it...tonight I upgraded my PC from:

>Athlon 1000 to a AMD XP 1800+...
>256MB to 512MB (PC133)

>Win98SE is running OK...RM, STCC, V8C, SCGT etc is running fine...
>But the Alfa147mod for F1-2002 Crashes To Desktop occasionally...
>...especialley on Magny-Cours and Nrburgring (short/modern)

>I upgraded the driver for my Geforce2 MX-400 from version 6.50 (!) which
>have run on my system for ages (2 years or so)...to 21.83, 22.50, 30.82
>etc...and back to 6.50...but nothing seems to work...:(

>any ideas?

I think I have almost solved the problem....thanx for help, Dave :)

In Bios I set the CPU(XP1800+) to 1150 MHz instead of 1533, and set the
mem.speed to 100 MHz instead of 133, and tonight I will put other PC133
mem-modules in it and try...(maybe it was "remarked" PC133 instead of
PC100?)

If this don't help I may say: I don't know why the Asus A7V133 can't
handle the XP's...Bios is version 1009, and there should be XP-support
from version 1007...

I'll let u know...

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RDS

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by RDS » Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:01:42

<snip>
I've built 3 pc's using an Asus A7V133 MB, all w/1009 bios. Everyone of
them has been unstable with CPU's faster than 1 GHZ.

I've tried, 1.0Ghz Athlons, 1.4Ghz Athlons, 1.33 Athlons, 850Mhz Durons
and 900 Mhz Durons. These machines all had 256 megs of Corsair cas2
pc133 mem.

The 1.0Ghz Athlon, and all the Durons have run fine, but the faster
chips were always unstable.

I replaced:
The first Asus w/ the 1.33 Athlon, with an EPOX 8kha+ and Corsair DDR
mem, Rock solid.

The second Asus, w/ the 1.4 Athlon, with a DFI-AD76 w/generic DDR mem,
Rock Solid.

The three Asus boards now have their Durons and 1.0 Athlon back in place
and are running great.

I've since replaced the 1.33Ghz Athlon w/ a XP2400+ (on the Epox) and it
runs perfect, so I am know looking for a home for the 1.33 but I can
guarantee it WILL NOT be an ASUS A7V133!

Bob

Remco Moe

CTD in Alfa147mod/F12002 :(

by Remco Moe » Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:35:56


>I've since replaced the 1.33Ghz Athlon w/ a XP2400+ (on the Epox) and it
>runs perfect, so I am know looking for a home for the 1.33 but I can
>guarantee it WILL NOT be an ASUS A7V133!

Hmmm, at work I'm using an A7V133 (BIOS 1005A) with 1.33 Athlon for
quite some time now without any problems.....

Remco


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