rec.autos.simulators

As a "perfectionnist", GC should includes all this details in a game..
Don't tell me he don't have the skills or the time........He had 4 YEARS
!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like EA Sports, i think he did the minimum in order to make us buy the "add-on"
GP4 (of course at a high price) and all the futurs GP5, GP6, etc.... EA Sports
did the same behaviour with all their
games. They add only a few stuffs every year in order to buy a tons of games.

I'm still waiting for the ultimate racing sim with all the features i would like
to be included.........but unfortunately, it  will not
be for the next months.

:-)

Geoff has the philosophy of doing one thing and doing it right.  That does
not include gimmicks such as animated guys running around your car and pace
cars.  He has concentrated on making the game engine as realistic as
possible.  It took 4 years because of the limited resources available to
him.  Just like every small software company, he has to make compromises
between never finishing a game and making a few ommisions to get it
released.  To add what you suggest would probably have added months onto the
release schedule.  Remember, he is under pressure from his publisher
(Hasbro) too.  IMO he has made exactly the right choices.  I don't care if I
have no pit radio and if all the cars look the same.  What I care about is
whether the game feels like I am driving a modern F1 car.  He has
concentrated on the GAME ENGINE as he has said many times before and he was
absolutely right to do so.

Cheers,
...Colin

I don't buy this driver arms = realistic arguement, its a waste of resources, and a
distraction if u ask me, and turnem off whenever i can, and the steering wheel if at
all possible.

Martyn_D

Incomplete-Feature-List-Allergy-Syndrome - it's a new but very rare
affliction...

yeah Geoff does get it right. I love canned spins, or isn't that part of the
GAME ENGINE.

Oh get it a "canned spin" is one you cant catch?

And that's why they aren't in the***pit, because Geoff still needs them...
:-)

Stephen

A classic example of how canned Geoff's code is, is when you attempt a J
Turn. Well umm it won't work and I doubt it will work in Gp2.5 / Gp3. Iam
not against Gp3 just because its not GPL however because it is not a step
forward. It really does appear to be nothing more Gp2 with a new season and
weather. Look at the screenshots. They are hardly sensational and look very
much like Gp2 with more polygons.

Dispute this it doesn't mean that I won't be buying Gp3, infact I have mine
ordered already, this is because dispute some major flaws it still will be
the best MODERN racing simulation. This isn't an indication of how good
Geoff's code is but how little sim development there has been in recent
years. Nothing has surpassed it apart from GPL and thats where the problem
arrives. Until GPL everyone believed Gp2 felt spot on. Then GPL came out and
showed us just how perfect racing sim could be. The reason why many people
are negative about Gp3 is because its not taking sim racing further. Its no
more advanced than games that came out 2 years ago.

Saves resources, and importance while racing is absolutely minimal.
Hell, there are even people who *think* the shapes are different just
because the textures mislead them.

Simple if you're satisfied with a mess, takes time to get *right*.

They hardly exchange a few words in reality.

Oh, it's easy to mention another 642897512 "features" that could be
in.

"Perfectionist" is not the same as mixing-up as much half-ass features
as possible. It's not about trying to fill the box with the longest
possible feature list. "Perfectionist" is about making sure that WHAT
you put in actually WORKS without problems.

That's the negative approach. There's also a positive approach.

By changing from his usual "1 sim every 5 years" strategy, GC has the
chance now to first put out a version that may have less-than-all
desirable features, but fills them in adequately (rain, AI, overall
playability.. you can think of more). That's why GP3 arrives on
schedule: they didn't have to RUSH things (examples around? :-)  )  

So now GC actually has time to implement additional features DECENTLY.
Because, maybe it surprises you, this takes TIME.

Give up. It will never arrive (since each time you'll want more
features, and since there are 435217 people out there who prefer still
other features)

JoH

Apart from the fact that it is *incredibly* early to comment this
aspect of GP3 (now that I think of it, it's utter BULLSHIT to comment
on it), "forward" is very relative. A sim uses different lanes. GP3
will definitely go forward in the graphics, AI, and weather
departments at least. That's already 3 "forwards".

Disagree. It looks *fabulous*. You mean that the reflections in the
puddles don't look "sensational"???? JFYI: Chris West (yes, from WSC!)
posted a message here stating how *impressive* the dynamical weather
effects were implemented in GP3.

But of course, what does HE know about programming sims! <G>

2.5 years later on 2.5 times better HW. Yep, "Pole Position" sucked,
too.

Again: isn't it a LITTLE bit early to slag it off? How much time have
you spent with GP3???  :-)

JoH

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