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N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

Regular Race

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Regular Race » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

V3 with a 1gig processor is an "interesting" combination....



> > no probs here - I have a 1GHz Thunderbird with a V3-3000, and N4 rocks

> Whoa, isn't that like using a Ferrari chassis with a hmmm Volvo S70 V-6
> engine? ;-)

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Eldre

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Eldre » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00



>V3 with a 1gig processor is an "interesting" combination....

Ok, why?

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Am

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Am » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00


thus spoke:

Well, seeing as we can only run tests in N4 and we don't know if the
NH patch that is supposed to be released one of these days is going to
be good or not. I'm still not decided on which is going to be my
choice for Nascar racing. So far I like the look and feel of the cars
in NH better. But, it falls short in other areas. N4 feels a little
too squirrelly to me and I don't like the***pit view either. But, it
is alpha so will have to wait to see if this is improved or not.

Am

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Am » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00


spoke:

Because the V3 becomes a bottleneck on that speed of processor. Vid
cards scale with the cpu (some better than others). To take full
advantage of that speed of cpu he should be using a V5 or Geforce2.

Dave Henri

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Dave Henri » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

  Not to criticize(spelling??) you Alan,  But I've run into more than
one of network system type guys who totally screwed up their
computers for ***.   hehehe
But I believe you when you say you know what your doing.
  So next we have to try isolating the cause of the slowdown.  Try turning
off the sound first in N4 and then if that doesn't help, turn off any 3d
sound
you may have enabled in windows itself.  (I'm hoping ME has the same style
as SE)
  we'll go from there...good luck!
dave henrie

Alan Coate

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Alan Coate » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

You sadden me, Mr Wheatley. And I thought you were a mature character.
However I have managed to improve frame rate. It's strange how Widows ME is
quite happy to allow IRQ sharing between the adapters!
ME wouldn't let me change the IRQ settings in software (or bios) but by
jiggling between different PCI slots with the sound adapter I managed to get
a different IRQ and this improved things no end.
I'll say it again as I've said in a previous post. Dx8 to speed games up ME
to slow them down!
I remember the days when a user had complete autonomy over IRQ settings.
Windows is not improving, just becoming too rigid and intransigent.

One last point, N3 was never released in the UK and as N4 is unlikely to be
its all become quite academic.
Regards,
Alan


> Absolute crap, you just need to read the readme.

> --



> > Sorry people but on my P3/800 + V5500 it's just plain aweful!

> > As I drive GPL with excellent results (2xFSAA at 1026x768 constant
36fps)
> > from my system I know it's not my system.

> > Dx8 (no openGL driver for V5500)

> > Frame Rate 4xFSAA 13-18
> > Frame Rate 2xFSAA 22 - 38
> > Frame Rate noFSAA 34 - 42

> > This from a lowely 1024x768x16(colour depth)

> > And with only 1 car on the track!

> > What is worse, despite the above frame rates the outside graphics appear
> to
> > step across the screen when turning. This is *** the eyes and
> distracts
> > from being able to drive well.

> > On each incarnation of Nascar the outside view becomes smaller. I get
the
> > sense that I am now driving from the rear seat. Looking at real life
> footage
> > of drivers behind the wheel, they are almost cramped up against it which
> > means that they hardly see the wheel while driving.

> > More outside view would allow better driving judgement. I think the
> smaller
> > view is probably there to help frame rate. Well guys (and gals) it aint
> > working!

> > Won't be buying this. Will put up with the ***A1 of Nascar Heat
> (excellent
> > frame rate and full field)

> > Alan

Regular Race

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Regular Race » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

Thank you AMP for explaining that.....



> spoke:

> >Ok, why?

> Because the V3 becomes a bottleneck on that speed of processor. Vid
> cards scale with the cpu (some better than others). To take full
> advantage of that speed of cpu he should be using a V5 or Geforce2.

Dave Henri

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Dave Henri » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

  Since both Nvidia and 3dfx have new parts on the drawing board...perhaps
*** on to the V3 makes sense...no reason to buy an interim card now and
then have to turn around early next year and cough up bucks for another
card.
dave henrie

Olav K. Malm

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Olav K. Malm » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00


> > > Because the V3 becomes a bottleneck on that speed of processor. Vid
> > > cards scale with the cpu (some better than others). To take full
> > > advantage of that speed of cpu he should be using a V5 or Geforce2.

>   Since both Nvidia and 3dfx have new parts on the drawing board...perhaps
>*** on to the V3 makes sense...no reason to buy an interim card now and
> then have to turn around early next year and cough up bucks for another
> card.

But when they come out, something else, faster, and better looking,
will be on the drawing table, so better hang out a little more :)

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Tim Wheatle

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Tim Wheatle » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

ME is better for *** when you configure it properly, easily.

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> You sadden me, Mr Wheatley. And I thought you were a mature character.
> However I have managed to improve frame rate. It's strange how Widows ME
is
> quite happy to allow IRQ sharing between the adapters!
> ME wouldn't let me change the IRQ settings in software (or bios) but by
> jiggling between different PCI slots with the sound adapter I managed to
get
> a different IRQ and this improved things no end.
> I'll say it again as I've said in a previous post. Dx8 to speed games up
ME
> to slow them down!
> I remember the days when a user had complete autonomy over IRQ settings.
> Windows is not improving, just becoming too rigid and intransigent.

> One last point, N3 was never released in the UK and as N4 is unlikely to
be
> its all become quite academic.
> Regards,
> Alan



> > Absolute crap, you just need to read the readme.

> > --



> > > Sorry people but on my P3/800 + V5500 it's just plain aweful!

> > > As I drive GPL with excellent results (2xFSAA at 1026x768 constant
> 36fps)
> > > from my system I know it's not my system.

> > > Dx8 (no openGL driver for V5500)

> > > Frame Rate 4xFSAA 13-18
> > > Frame Rate 2xFSAA 22 - 38
> > > Frame Rate noFSAA 34 - 42

> > > This from a lowely 1024x768x16(colour depth)

> > > And with only 1 car on the track!

> > > What is worse, despite the above frame rates the outside graphics
appear
> > to
> > > step across the screen when turning. This is *** the eyes and
> > distracts
> > > from being able to drive well.

> > > On each incarnation of Nascar the outside view becomes smaller. I get
> the
> > > sense that I am now driving from the rear seat. Looking at real life
> > footage
> > > of drivers behind the wheel, they are almost cramped up against it
which
> > > means that they hardly see the wheel while driving.

> > > More outside view would allow better driving judgement. I think the
> > smaller
> > > view is probably there to help frame rate. Well guys (and gals) it
aint
> > > working!

> > > Won't be buying this. Will put up with the ***A1 of Nascar Heat
> > (excellent
> > > frame rate and full field)

> > > Alan

Am

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Am » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00


spoke:

Depends on your cashflow. There is *always* something better just
around the corner.

Am

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Am » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:56 -0000, "Tim Wheatley"

Why? Every game I own works great on Win98 so why is ME better for
***?

Eldre

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Eldre » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00


>>Ok, why?

>Because the V3 becomes a bottleneck on that speed of processor. Vid
>cards scale with the cpu (some better than others). To take full
>advantage of that speed of cpu he should be using a V5 or Geforce2.

Well, I couldn't afford to upgrade both my cpu/mobo and video at the same time.
 I'll end up in the same situation when(if) I upgrade to an Athlon 700... :)

Eldred
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Uncle Feste

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Uncle Feste » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00




> >V3 with a 1gig processor is an "interesting" combination....

> Ok, why?

LOL.  Can you say "Bottleneck?"  I thought you could. <g>  Kinda the
reverse of putting a GeForce2 into a 486.  :-)

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Alan Coate

N4 requires P5/2Ghz + Voodoo 10

by Alan Coate » Fri, 01 Dec 2000 04:00:00

See comments below:-


> On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:53:56 -0000, "Tim Wheatley"

> >ME is better for *** when you configure it properly, easily.

> Why? Every game I own works great on Win98 so why is ME better for
> ***?

ME may well be better for ***, but only after you undo all the silly
things that ME does by default when you first install it. I know for a fact
that a lot of people haven't got either the skill or the bottle (or both) to
hack around their shiny new operating system, so either they:
a. put up with it
b. pay a lot of cash for expert help or
b. give up

Despite the fact that microsoft make more money from the 'home' industry
it's suprising that Windows tends to default more towards business use.

I think there is still a strange snobery about computers being serious use
objects.

HaHa, what a joke!
Alan


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