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Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:13:44


Legrand) thus spoke:

I read in the newspaper recently that 98% of *all* products in China
are counterfeit.
--
Jagg

Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:14:54

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 06:52:22 -0600, "Cliff Roman"

Yes, but we are pointing out to you that doing this is illogical. Come
over to the darkside. :-)
--
Jagg

Pierre Legra

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Pierre Legra » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 05:21:09

And lets not even get into India....<VBG> Where the disposable income
is high enough for enough people to have a thriving pirate industry.
And then dear old Mother Russia where people seem to believe that its
their god given right to***over western software companies.

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Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 06:13:28


Legrand) thus spoke:

And we are the ones that get ******ed for it. Yep, real good logic
there. :-)
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Jagg

Cliff Roma

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Cliff Roma » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:25:56

No, you are just trying to corrupt me!! :)


> On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 06:52:22 -0600, "Cliff Roman"

> >Do you think I like having to have a CD in my drive to play a game?  Hell
> >No.. of course I wish that they did not include copy protection on CDs
etc..

> >That is not my point.   My point is that I am open minded enough to look
at
> >it from their view and understand why they do it.

> >That was my whole comment on the Copy Protection thread.  "I can
understand
> >why they do it".  That is all that I said.

> Yes, but we are pointing out to you that doing this is illogical. Come
> over to the darkside. :-)
> --
> Jagg

Alk

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Alk » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:23:05



I have about 60 - 80 CD's with all the games I've bought, out of those only
about 6 are of any importance to me. The first thing I do when I buy a game
is go and get a "no-cd" crack", because I hate looking through my files of
CD's to play a particular game today.
I don't pirate software, I pay for my shit, but I go nuts if I have to keep
swapping CD's!
Thank you crackers! I need you even though I buy everything I play!
The whole point of this thread I thought was because N4 wouldn't load and
run on a legitamate installation. I can't find N4 yet where I live, but
when I get it and it doesn't load and run... I will be REALLY pissed off.

Pierre Legra

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Pierre Legra » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:10:43

Its that management mentality....do something...do anything even if
its the wrong thing....especially do something if there really isnt
anything you can do....because if you dont do anything sure enough
someone will realize they dont need you.

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Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
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Rants, Bullshit and Help Guides availible at
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Andrew MacPhers

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Andrew MacPhers » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:52:00


> I read in the newspaper recently that 98% of *all* products in China
> are counterfeit.

Yes, but given that so many western goods are now manufactured very
cheaply in China, nobody's trying to slap the Chinese government too hard.
"Please try to stop all that *** stealing" on one hand. "Please take
this five dollar bill for manufacturing five million dollar's worth of
goods" on the other. I think we're currently winning on the overall
economic deal judging by the endless stream of Made in China labels I see
plastered over everything.

Andrew McP

Dave Cas

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Dave Cas » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:11:52

I guess the question here would be what is "standard" hardware?  With a
hundred different drive makers out there thinking their way is the best it's
no wonder game makers have a problem like this every now and then.  It was
pointed out that the consoles don't have this problem because of
standardization.  Great.  I don't own a PS2 nor do I ever intend to buy one.  
But I also don't intend to buy the exact same computer system that you have or
the guy next door has or so on and so forth.

I got my game Wednesday and had it installed and up and running 15 minutes
after I walked in the door after work.  And my Creative CD drive is second in
it's chain and I had not one problem.

Dave Casey
Casey_94 (NASCAR Racing 3 & 4)
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Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:23:23

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:52 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),

The corporate companies are making bigger profits by exploiting
*cheap* labour. We, on the other hand, are losing jobs to those
countries.
--
Jagg

Woodie

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Woodie » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:17:29



>The corporate companies are making bigger profits by exploiting
>*cheap* labour. We, on the other hand, are losing jobs to those
>countries.

Oh, so that explains a decade of the lowest unemployment numbers since WW2.
The same decade in which Malaysian and Chinese manufacturing ballooned.

Don McCorkle

Mike Donnelly J

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Mike Donnelly J » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:31:59


> Jagg, you honestly can not blame the publishers for using Copy Protection

> Not with as much piracy as there are these days

Okay, there is a lot of piracy going on.  Problem is, when you hire a company
to develop the latest and greatest copy protection, put it on your product
and have a no-CD crack out 4 hours after the product hits the shelf (making
piracy a heck of a lot easier), the question remains why did you waste (and
there's no other term for it) all that money on copy protection that isn't
working?

Papy had a copy protection scheme in Indianapolis 500: The Simulation
(remember that one?); Indycar Racing 1 and by the time NASCAR Racing 1 came
out, they figured out that copy protection doesn't work and stopped.

Don't ask me why Sierra started it up again.

Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:49:22


Mostly due to low paying part time and service industry jobs. Enjoy
your Nike shoes.
--
Jagg

Jag

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by Jag » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:50:56

On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:31:59 GMT, Mike Donnelly Jr

One developer said it is because the retail stores are demanding it.
--
Jagg

The Enigmatic O

Damn! Finally got N4 today and it won't run!

by The Enigmatic O » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:38:58

        Probably because it is the future.  In the future, your monitor,
cotrollers, speakers, tv, everything is going to have to be able to connect to
see if you have the "right" to be doing whatever you are doing.  Probably
sooner than most think, too.

                                        -Tim


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