Not easy, but they don't have the right to sell something to someone
that doesn't work as advertised either.
I don't have a problem. Haven't even bought N4 yet. :-)
Just being a mouth piece on an issue that sticks a thorn in my side.
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> Perhaps they didn't have to use profanity but rather desired to.
> Everytime I get a disc that doesn't work in one of my cdroms I get the
> urge to steal the software just to teach em a lesson. I resist the urge
> but I still get it.
> Chris
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So just because you don't have a problem means that all others should
shut up? Here's some news for you, I don't have a problem running
these copy protected cdroms either. But unlike you, I take a stand on
issues that***me off.
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If you will notice, my argument with you was about the "right to make a
backup copy"
Ok.. lets say you do have the right, nothing is stopping you but your own
hardware.
It is not the game companies fault that CloneCD (the program that you can
make a backup copy of a copy protected CD) does not support your cd-rom.
Be mad all you want at game companies for using Copy Protection.. I still
think they have every right to do so and I can understand why they do.
However, do not be mad at them because you can not make a backup copy of the
CD when that has nothing to do with them. That has to do with your hardware
imcompatability with the program that allows you to make backups.
> >I honestly can not relate.. I have yet to ever buy a piece of software
that
> >one of my CD drives had a problem with.
> So just because you don't have a problem means that all others should
> shut up? Here's some news for you, I don't have a problem running
> these copy protected cdroms either. But unlike you, I take a stand on
> issues that***me off.
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> Jagg
Ben....who hasn't ever had a problem either but sympathises with these
rednecks^w nascar 4 owners
>Not with as much piracy as there are these days
Eldred - who HATES looking for the CD to a game I haven't played in about 5-6
months... :(
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>I love how people use the "infringing on my rights" argument though, like
>you actually feel violated because you can not back up that CD.
Eldred
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No, the copy protection is stopping me. My hardware is not at fault.I
shouldn't have to buy "Clone CD" to make a copy even.
Yes it is.
But, it's been proven time after time that it only succeeds in ripping
off legitimate consumers. It's a no-win deal.
Read the above.
There should be no reason to have to use 3rd party software to make a
backup. I have every ethical right to download the warez version to
circumvent their copy protection if my hardware is to blame. I have
the right to a backup copy therfore it is ethically right for me to
buy the game and then download the warez version too so that I will
have a backup copy and not have to use the cdrom.
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What do you mean you should not have to use a 3rd party software to make a
backup? What do you normally use to copy a CD????
> >That is far from it..
> >If you will notice, my argument with you was about the "right to make a
> >backup copy"
> >Ok.. lets say you do have the right, nothing is stopping you but your own
> >hardware.
> No, the copy protection is stopping me. My hardware is not at fault.I
> shouldn't have to buy "Clone CD" to make a copy even.
> >It is not the game companies fault that CloneCD (the program that you can
> >make a backup copy of a copy protected CD) does not support your cd-rom.
> Yes it is.
> >Be mad all you want at game companies for using Copy Protection.. I still
> >think they have every right to do so and I can understand why they do.
> But, it's been proven time after time that it only succeeds in ripping
> off legitimate consumers. It's a no-win deal.
> >However, do not be mad at them because you can not make a backup copy of
the
> >CD when that has nothing to do with them.
> Read the above.
> > That has to do with your hardware
> >imcompatability with the program that allows you to make backups.
> There should be no reason to have to use 3rd party software to make a
> backup. I have every ethical right to download the warez version to
> circumvent their copy protection if my hardware is to blame. I have
> the right to a backup copy therfore it is ethically right for me to
> buy the game and then download the warez version too so that I will
> have a backup copy and not have to use the cdrom.
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> Jagg
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Why do you think that games like Frogger outsell games like Quake 3? You
can bet that more people play Quake 3, but those that do are the ones that
know about warez and crack sites. A larger percentage of people that play
games like Frogger have no clue that world even exists.
> > Be mad all you want at game companies for using Copy Protection.. I
still
> > think they have every right to do so and I can understand why they do.
> I would agree... IF... it stopped those they are trying to stop. Those
> groups/individual aren't stopped by this technology though. Therefore,
> since all it REALLY does is mess with the legit *paying* customers, it's
> not a real bright move on behalf of the software companies.
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> Fester
Nero. Came with the cdrw drive. That's all I should need. Anyway, I'm
just being the devils advocate. I don't really care if I make backups.
I rarely do when I can, but it would be nice to be able to without
being hindered by copy protection schemes.
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Ben
hehe...You are deep into this futile effort to defend an illogical
effort on the part of game companies to stop people who are lots
sharper than even *** quake players. The ripping off of software
on the scale that is harming people is being done not by some lonely
little piece of shit in some dark room but by companies safe behind
borders of countries that dont recognise property rights.
Your position is illogica because exactly as has been pointed out to
you the copy protection bullshit is bypassed easily by the
dedicated...all this bullshit copy protection does is***off legit
owners and given the state of PC *** thats just not a very smart
thing to do. The problem is that managers cannot just do
nothing...else someone higher up the foodchain will be pissed off by
the inaction. Sooo the manager responsible makes a decision to put
something there even if he knows its absolutely absurd.
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That is not my point. My point is that I am open minded enough to look at
it from their view and understand why they do it.
That was my whole comment on the Copy Protection thread. "I can understand
why they do it". That is all that I said.
