rec.autos.simulators

by **Joe6** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>The ovals in Nascar 3 are very different from each other.

Same in DTR, IMO. Different driving techniques are needed to excel at
most of them.

Like the tracks, they look realistic. If someone has a personal
preference for fantasy cars/tracks then fine, say so, but it's not a
fair comment as written.

Joe McGinn
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by **Pete** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Ah, the sim god has spoken! Let us all bow to your talents
and knowledge oh great one!
If calling me ignorant isn't flaming than I guess I need to come
down to your level of maturity, but your lack of vocabulary makes
it so hard. I guess all those years of racing around in saloons has
made you drunk with power! Your diction is intoxicating but you
know what happens when you get too drunk, you regurgitate it up
for the rest of us to see.
Your my hero by the way, I like to cheer for the misguided and
uninformed lost souls that wonder the net professing to be an experts!
I like tiddly winks by the way, reminds me of saloon cars!

Bottoms Up

Actually, I like tiddle winks!

by **Todd Sorense** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I thought it was the first sensible rating of this much overrated game.

by **Todd Sorense** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Did you create this game? A little sensitive maybe?

> Its obvious in reading his reviews he knows little or nothing
> about real life racing or what physics are involved in Dirt Track
> Racing. After reading Dale Earnhardts interview on the game and
> talking with dozens of real life racers it seems that he is using an
> arcade mentality in his viewpoint. Does, this mean that because
> you agree with him that this is your source of reference as well?
> Or perhaps, you and Howie Mandrel are much more versed in
> whats real and what isn't!
> As far as graphics go its no NFS4, Dethkarz or Motorhead!
> But we are talking about racing in dirt! Cars aren't spit and polish
> show cars but maybe that has escaped you!
> He says the courses are all similiar! Gee, he must have tried
> just 1 of them then. Setups are different for me at every track
> and you can use crossovers with flat tracks, medium banking and
> high banked but even then they are different.
> He keeps comparing the game to arcade games ie. Speed Busters
> what would this imply on his and your points of view?
> The only sounds you hear are the engine and the ocassional banging
> of cars. Hilarious! All the racers I know have Opera playing on their
> entertainment centers in their race cars! What crap! And you endorse
> this review? Pretty sad bud!
> I could go on but I think you get the point. I don't dislike arcade
> games
> and have all the ones mentioned above but I certainly don't use them
> to reference sims.
> To use his frame of reference Speed Busters beats out GPL for the
> best sim!
> You may not like a game because of personal choice but to endorse a
> poorly reviewed piece of work is sad.

> Pete

> > He enjoys arcade racing games, so what? That doesn't mean that he
> > doesn't know what a real sim should be like.

> > Andre

> > > Here is this whiz bang reviewers bio! Look at his favourite
> > >racing games! :-) What a joke! Obviously, his ego matches his
> > >reviewing skills! Howie Mandel's brother, what a couple of clowns!

> > > Pete

by **Ronnie Bigwhi** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Youre pretty stupid Ron.

> As usual, it seems your lack of maturity and real world driving ability
> rules your mind...
> I didn't flame you, but it is obvious who is the little child here,
> Petey..
> It's little boys like you that need to be told by their real world
> heros, how a car should drive etc..
> Stick to your tiddlywink set Petey, it suits your skills more.

> Ron

> > And its obvious you don't know how to configure a pc
> > to run a game properly if you compare this to a Hovercraft
> > because I spent a fair bit of time in a Hovercraft and it handles
> > nothing like this game.
> > We have a huge number of real life racers included in
> > our beta group and they don't have the same opinion as
> > you do either but then again with all the Dirt Track racing
> > you have done and your running of the Nascar Circuit does
> > give you a huge advantage over Dale. Its nice see you can
> > comment on my driving experience and you don't even know me.
> > Could it be that your psychic ability exceeds your driving
> > knowledge. If so it is limited on both counts!
> > As far being ignorant you are an expert in that field so I will
> > let you comment on your obvious talents.
> > Good job arcade breath!

> > Pete

by **Ron Ayto** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Your right Ronnie,
Having a personal opinion about something i like or dislike is totally
stupid, how foolish of me..!!

Cheers,
Ron

by **Ron Ayto** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Little Petey,
I should never have replied to your childish ramblings in the first
place, as it has only brought me down to your weener level..
Have a nice day...

Ron

> Ah, the sim god has spoken! Let us all bow to your talents
> and knowledge oh great one!
> If calling me ignorant isn't flaming than I guess I need to come
> down to your level of maturity, but your lack of vocabulary makes
> it so hard. I guess all those years of racing around in saloons has
> made you drunk with power! Your diction is intoxicating but you
> know what happens when you get too drunk, you regurgitate it up
> for the rest of us to see.
> Your my hero by the way, I like to cheer for the misguided and
> uninformed lost souls that wonder the net professing to be an
experts!
> I like tiddly winks by the way, reminds me of saloon cars!

> Bottoms Up

> Actually, I like tiddle winks!

> > As usual, it seems your lack of maturity and real world driving
ability
> > rules your mind...
> > I didn't flame you, but it is obvious who is the little child here,
> > Petey..
> > It's little boys like you that need to be told by their real world
> > heros, how a car should drive etc..
> > Stick to your tiddlywink set Petey, it suits your skills more.

> > Ron

by **Mike Grandy S** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Seems to me you were already there.

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Little Petey,
I should never have replied to your childish ramblings in the first
place, as it has only brought me down to your weener level..
Have a nice day...

Ron

> Ah, the sim god has spoken! Let us all bow to your talents
> and knowledge oh great one!
> If calling me ignorant isn't flaming than I guess I need to come
> down to your level of maturity, but your lack of vocabulary makes
> it so hard. I guess all those years of racing around in saloons has
> made you drunk with power! Your diction is intoxicating but you
> know what happens when you get too drunk, you regurgitate it up
> for the rest of us to see.
> Your my hero by the way, I like to cheer for the misguided and
> uninformed lost souls that wonder the net professing to be an
experts!
> I like tiddly winks by the way, reminds me of saloon cars!
>
> Bottoms Up
>
> Actually, I like tiddle winks!

> > As usual, it seems your lack of maturity and real world driving
ability
> > rules your mind...
> > I didn't flame you, but it is obvious who is the little child here,
> > Petey..
> > It's little boys like you that need to be told by their real world
> > heros, how a car should drive etc..
> > Stick to your tiddlywink set Petey, it suits your skills more.
> >
> > Ron
> >
>
>
>
>

by **Mitch Alatorr** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I guess I'm stupid also Ron A! While DTR was kinda fun the first day or two
the fun quickly vanished. Almost as fast as this thread degenerated into a
flame fest :0). This game can hardly be called a Sim! But as you have said
numerous times this is only my opinion (like ***s, we all have one, and
it don't stink!). BTW I still can't stand F2 or F3 :-) Couldn't agree with
ya completely could I?

Mitch Alatorre

> > Youre pretty stupid Ron.

> Your right Ronnie,
> Having a personal opinion about something i like or dislike is totally
> stupid, how foolish of me..!!

> Cheers,
> Ron

by **Huh?** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>> http://avault.com/reviews/review_temp.asp?game=dirttr

>> Bob Mandel at AVAULT shits on yet another racing sim.

>> DTR = 2 1/2 stars.
>I thought it was the first sensible rating of this much overrated game.

Here are a few other 2 1/2 star titles from AVAULT. Do
you REALLY think it belongs in this crowd?

http://avault.com/reviews/index.asp?index=reviews_2hstars

Deer Hunter II - WizardWorks
Dragon Dice - Interplay
Flesh Feast - SegaSoft
Fox Sports Soccer '99
Gooch Grundy's X-Decathlon
Power F1 - Eidos Interactive
Robo Rumble - Interactive Magic
Tennis Elbow - GOTO Software
Nitro Racers - 3DO

by **Donny Nelm** » Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:00:00

--
Unfortunately, the courses seem all too similar as you drive on
them; I am sorely tempted to say, "If you've seen one looped dirt
track, you've seen 'em all.""

Well even thought Bristol Motor speedway isnt in DTR the World of Outlaws
and Have a Tampa Late models are gonna be there when the Worlds greatest
dirt races will be at the WORLD FASTEST HALFMILE!
Now that is one track ya havent seen yet and it will be the Greatest Show on
Earth for Dirt races!

BULLBAG on WON

Member of Milenio Motorsports--"Warpin to the Future,Not Crying about the
Past"
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by **Pete** » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

How thoughtful of you! Your timing and insight are truly
remarkable. It has been a pleasure communicating with you at
such a profound level.
Hopefully, you can still find time to hover around those saloons
and share your fanciful repartee afterwards!
Have a nice day as well playing with your little "Petey"!

Pete

by **Pete** » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Todd, gosh I didn't think people would notice! I'm such
a warm, compassionate kind of guy! :-)

Pete

by **Ron Ayto** » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Where does that leave you then Mike ?
I tried to hold a sensible discussion with you Mike, in relation to DTR
but all you can say in response is "Seems to me you were already
there."

Seems to me i have company then....!!

Seems to me you were already there.

by **Ron Ayto** » Thu, 06 Jan 2000 04:00:00

LOL, we could never have that Mitch.. :))

Cheers,
Ron

PS.. about time you showed fo for a league bash again, i need to kick
some RedNeck ***in Roundy Roundy racin' :))

> I guess I'm stupid also Ron A! While DTR was kinda fun the first day
or two
> the fun quickly vanished. Almost as fast as this thread degenerated
into a
> flame fest :0). This game can hardly be called a Sim! But as you
have said
> numerous times this is only my opinion (like ***s, we all have
one, and
> it don't stink!). BTW I still can't stand F2 or F3 :-) Couldn't
agree with
> ya completely could I?

> Mitch Alatorre

> > > Youre pretty stupid Ron.

> > Your right Ronnie,
> > Having a personal opinion about something i like or dislike is
totally
> > stupid, how foolish of me..!!

> > Cheers,
> > Ron

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