rec.autos.simulators

Currently, you can only host races in such a situation.  Maybe Papy will
improve this area of the sim with the patch Randy Cassidy spoke of.  We
can only wait and see.

By the way, I've heard that [the current release of] GPL does allow you
to host AND join races if you're using IPchains, but since IPchains is
only fully implemented in the 2.1.x developer kernels, I haven't yet
tried it (I'm running 2.0.36).  However, the current buzz is that 2.2.0
is *supposed* to be released on Monday (01/25/99), so if you're a brave
soul you could try it.  Personally, I'm waiting for either SUSE or
Slackware (prefer Slackware) to hit the streets with an official
distribution CD.

Maybe Papy's waiting for 2.2.0 to be released to, so they can say that
you need to be running 2.2.0 in order for GPL to work from behgind a
Linux firewall... :-)

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I'm still quite a bit off the fastest guys (Wolfgang, Sasa, Tadej, Ian..)
but I can tell you a way to maybe help you check where you are loosing
time. Because there are no good reference points on the track you
cannot cross-check your exit speeds out of corners with others. So
what you do is you check your maximum speed before braking into
every corner. You get two kinds of information from this. One, you
get the entry speed, but you also get an indication of your exit
speed from the previous corner. If your exit speed was low from
the previous corner your entry speed into the next turn will be
lower. This is not perfect..but helps..

If you want to do it real techie style ;) Then you run a really
good lap, record Vmax (maximum entry speed) at the entry to every
corner, and Vmin (the minimum speed through the corner) for every
corner. Also record the speed when you cross the start/finish
line. Do the same with e.g. Wolfgang's 1:27.14 lap, and you have
a nice (depressing) reference :)

You will probably find that you're 0-10 km/h slower at every
point. Wolfgang is especially fast at the start/finish line.
Hence he's exiting really good out of Parabolica. Also check
his entry into Parabolica. He's coming in VERY fast, but turning
in a little early, letting the car slide out and wide. He's kinda
doing two apexes at Parabolica. One entry apex and one exit..

The Lesmos are also crucial to a fast lap. You have to be
excruciatingly smooth through these two corners and get on
the power long before the second Lesmo straightens out.

You can also measure exit speed at the end of the armco of
Ascari. The armco provides a nice reference point. A high
exit speed comes from smoothness through the turn, and is
important for the straight before Parabolica.

So to sum it up: you have to be fast and smooth at every
corner to make a really good lap :) Was this a surprise? :)

I know this is just a game, but it is fun to think about these
things why someone is faster than you or not. You can go about
it in a technical, methodical (boring? :)) way, as I just
desribed..or you can just look at the laps, enjoy them, and
see if you maybe learn something..

Hope I could help :)

Regards,
  Casper

I am doing that right now and find that thru curva grande our entry speed
is the same i am quicker mid corner nad exit is the same,  at  lesmos his
entry is a touch quicker but mid and exit is the same.  the Ascari our
entry is within 1 mph and exit is the same and at para he is about three
mph faster out and 2 mph slower mid corner

I have always done this even in real racing.  The tach reading at the end
of the straight is your grade card for the last corner.

Thanks for hte help tho.

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David Robinson

Egan's Law  

The Pace car will always go 2 MPH slower then your race car idles in first
gear.

David, it's just that the number of people who are qualified to give
you advice on going even faster is decreasing rapidly. :) My lap times
are comparable to John's, even a bit slower. Go to W. Woeger - mere
mortals can't help you getting better anymore. The Force is strong in
you! :)

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Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

Don't take online lap times for granted.
Once I turned 1.27.15 in quals for Monza without flat-shifting :o)
Sasa Mencinger did 1.26.90 on the same lap. Lap times done
online can sometimes be confusing.

Regards,

Tadej Krevh
Lotus Internet Racing
http://members.xoom.com/LotusRacing/

1:27.10 is yet to be done in Monza :o)

Cheers,
 Tadej Krevh

Hi,
  going faster at Monza ?

Try scrubbing off the speed entering turn 1 and keep feathering the throttle
while going past the apex (you need a nice setup to do that). Trail brake into

Lesmo 1. Get on the power in Lesmo2 as soon as possible, even if that means
sacrifising some (pre)apex speed. Be smooth through that long left flat-out
corner (watch replay - your speed shouldn't drop under 180mph).
Brake for Parabolica just when you're about to pass that white sign on the
left side of the track. Let the car carry some speed into the corner. Line up
the
car on the inside of the track and accelerate out of Parabolica in 3rd gear,
correcting your steering with wheel rather then throttle, be smooth.

Cheers,
Tadej Krevh
Lotus Internet Racing
http://members.xoom.com/LotusRacing/
// Monza, 1:27.36

I dowloaded a few of his laps and have been disecting them.  I still am
trying to figure out where he is making the second on me at Monza tho.  We
run almost the same entry, middle and exit corner speeds witht he exception
of Parabolica and I really not sure if there is a full second in
Parabolica.  I guess a few hundred more laps will be the final decider for
me.

Thanks,

--
David Robinson

Egan's Law  

The Pace car will always go 2 MPH slower then your race car idles in first
gear.

It's not just the apex,entry or exit speed.
Take Lesmo 1 for instance (or DL my 1.27.36 lap) - it for sure looks
faster then W.Woeger's (compare the speeds). But on the finish line
he get's the pole :o)
I think I'm loosing my time in the mid-corner. It's better to come in slower
and line the car up before the apex and then soon on the power.

I could be wrong thou :o)

Cheers,
Tadej Krevh

No it's not ;) Ian Lake just posted 1:27.09 to gpl.gamesmania.com 8-O
And he did 1:27.13 or some such in the GPLWS Elite qualifying session.
Pretty neat, eh? :-)

Regards,
  Casper

Yeah, unbeliavable.
But I think once I get my PDPI settled (it still needs some fine tunning)
and
replace the pots I should be in the magic 1.26 at Monza :o))

At present, when at full throttle, the slider in the calibration jumps from
1.0000
to 0.927something. That's baaaaaaad for places like Monza. It worked for
Monaco & Silverstone though :o))

ce'ya on the track,

Tadej Krevh
Lotus Internet Racing
http://members.xoom.com/LotusRacing/

You think that's good? I've done 0:04.53 at Rouen - beat that :-)
Ok, I confess, I was using warp drive :-)
Cheers,
Paul

On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:02:20 +0100, "Tadej Krevh"

 Tune your PDPI?? How? I'd loveto tune my PDPI.
Sam