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by **alex** » Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:50:02

> ...
>> Do you have any links? I didn't even know you could run sandbox on
>> Windows:( It certainly sound interesting. Not that I'm very interested
>> in running Windows in particular, but all those damned games... ;)

>> Alex.

> I'm using Tiny Trojan Trap (and have been using it for several years).
> It is very good. Gives you excellent and extremely detailed control
> over the system, and integrates seamlessly and without any problems
> with the OS. But they seem to have gone out of business.

Tiny Software is still well, AFAIK. I'm using and I like their firewall,
but on their site there's no mention of Trojan Trap. I wonder why they've
discontinued it.

I checked it, it doesn't look overly impressive though :(. Mostly, because
they give no technical details and concentrate on pushing the fact that
they plug IE/OE/ActiveX holes. It leaves question how well they can deal
with the "apparently legit" executable running on the machine. Hopefully,
they've just forgot to mention it. It may be worthwhile to try, but I'm
still undecided. I wonder if Linux/WineX path may be easier (which would
also allow to run a bunch of useful software).

Alex.

by **Uwe Schürkam** » Fri, 15 Oct 2004 03:59:48

> He had some issues with LFS and its registration.

Are you sure that wasn't also with corners going, like, the other way,
like right? ;->

*me ducks for flame-proof cover*

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by JP » Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:22:51

> >>>> As you've probably noticed, bug after bug is discovered in
> >>>> Microsoft's own software. Why do you think MS certification of SF
> >>>> driver would guarantee the absense of bugs there?

> >>> Yes, my last crash in Windows XP was only about 4 months ago and I
> >>> only use it aout 10 hours per day.
> >> Is it supposed to be a good reliability record? And just read
> >> Microsoft's security bulletins and don't think your computer is immune
> >> by some magic. Take for example, GDI+ JPEG exploit. Neither firewall
> >> nor antivirus would protect you from it. The reason your computer is
> >> not hijacked (and I hope it is not) is because nobody bothered.

> > My PC isn't immune and neither is anybody elses. If some hacker wants
> > to take a crack a my PC then good luck to them. They may actually
> > force me to spend 5 minutes restoring my ghost backup image...
> Hmm... Now a question. How do you know that your StarForce driver is not
> replaced by some cunning trojan, that mask itself as a StarForce driver
and
> waiting its hour?

> And how much good your backup will do after the hackers have
> already "borrowed" your data?

> Alex.

Sound of black helicopters circling overhead.....

by **Pete** » Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:19:29

Something I just started using and I'm very impressed with is Giant
AntiSpyware.
Protects the system from not only Adware and Trojans but has a plethora of
system
security features. It also indentifies all the security holes in Windows, IE
OE and
gives you the option of closing them down or controlling there access.
There is a free demo.

http://www.giantcompany.com/(p5eamcuncitkc2rco11yogrf)/p_antispyware....

You also might want to look at Peer Guardian to block all web based
intrusions.

http://www.methlabs.org/methlabs.htm

Pete

> I'm using Tiny Trojan Trap (and have been using it for several years).
> It is very good. Gives you excellent and extremely detailed control over
> the system, and integrates seamlessly and without any problems with the
> OS. But they seem to have gone out of business.

> The only Sandbox I currently know of for Windows is SurfingGuard from
> Finjan:

> http://www.finjan.com/products/HomeUsersSurfinGuardPro/default.asp

> but I have no idea how good it is. As long as TTT remains compatible
> with the OS I'm using (currently Win2k) I'll keep using it.

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by **Joachim Trens** » Sat, 16 Oct 2004 19:25:47

...

Yes, I know, Finjan doesn't provide much detail. I hope, like you, that
they're simply not mentioning it because they don't want to shy anyone
away. After all, a Sandbox can, if the factory config is good, be
extremely easy to use, even for less computer savvy folks and the
average user doesn't need to bother much with details.

Tiny Trojan Trap OTOH really gives you full control. It's a shame it's
been discontinued. They could at least continue to sell it if they don't
want to update it, because at least under W2k it runs flawlessly. Maybe
Tiny can help you find TTT or even sell it to you directly. I only knew
they've discontinued it, and since they - at least that's what it looked
like to me - sold their Firewall to Kerio, I wasn't sure they still existed.

Why don't you write them an email. I'd give it a try.

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by **Eldre** » Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:48:03

>Yet another reason to:
>- not work with administrator rights

But, 'normal' user accounts can't install programs that modify the registry,
right?

Don't know this one, I'll have to look for it.

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by **alex** » Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:44:58

>>Yet another reason to:
>>- not work with administrator rights

> But, 'normal' user accounts can't install programs that modify the
> registry, right?

Genereally, they can modify the registry, but only that user's section, not
local machine settings or all users defaults.

InCtrl5 : http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9882,00.asp

Alex.

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