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How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

Khul

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Khul » Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:45:19


said:

Presumably not yours either......

Adam Web

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Adam Web » Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:01:10

sigh..........



> said:

> > what is this, and English class?????? maybe English isnt his first
> > language?

> > :-p

> Presumably not yours either......

Vict

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Vict » Thu, 19 Sep 2002 21:45:10





> > I got it working fine; it would just overheat (despite a heat sink--this
>  is a K5 I'm talking about) and hang my system a lot.

> Yeah, I had trouble with my 8086a system too. Maybe I should boycott Intel?
> The Z80 I had ran real smooth.

> MS-Dos 3.2 was also a ***. Maybe I should boycott M$?

My abacus just broke. Damn those Akkadians.

- Vic

Larr

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Larr » Thu, 19 Sep 2002 22:43:24

Be advised, most hard drive manufacturers are sticking it to consumers
starting October first.

Both Maxtor and Western Digital have announced that they are killing off
their multi-year warranties, and starting October 1st the warranties on
their drives is being dropped to ONE year!

Ain't it funny how they are all doing it at the SAME time ?

The only exception I know of is WD's 'special' drives, the one's with the
8MB buffer.  They are retaining the 3 year warranty.

I'm really disappointed in this, personally, and find it very interesting
that they all did it on the exact same day.

-Larry




> > Some of us, have an expiry date for our 'first impressions',
> > especially when the product, they are based on, has expired as well,
> > and which gives us a better chance of picking the right CPU, sound or
> > graphic chip, when the time comes.

> Maybe so, but I still won't buy a Seagate HDD ... and that's a prejudice
> that has lasted me almost 20 years.

> Otherwise I'm happy running my AMD+ATI rig. (I have an original Radeon).
> Their drivers were pretty patchy for a while, but they have picked up a
lot
> since. I would upgrade to the 9700 Pro, but just can't swallow the current
> price tag.

Eep2

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Eep2 » Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:23:55

I haven't had any problems with Intel CPUs yet--and I've been using them since my lowly 286/10. <shrug>

> > No, I'm sticking with reliable hardware, thank you: Intel all the way.

> Expensive,slow,shit that outputs the same heat as the equal rated AMD?

> So your just paying for the name then? dont care how slow it is?

Adam Web

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Adam Web » Fri, 20 Sep 2002 08:09:53

since my lowly 286/10. <shrug>

im not saying Intel have problems (which ALL companys have), there just
slow, and expensive for the performance you get........

You didnt by a PIII1000mhz then? ;-) That would turn anyone off Intel, thats
the Worse EVER release of hardware... im sure.

Funny how the overclockers could get there cores too 1000mhz but Intel
themselfs couldnt! ;-)

But hey, im talking about you only using Intel, and not trying the faster
option, and im sticking here with just Nvidia cards (plus a sole Voodoo3 2k
in a server) hmm Whats that word? Hypocrite? (come on i cant spell, some
English lesson guy come along and correct me :-P

But then the ATI card is supposed to support AGPx8...... does it work?
nope.... doesnt work in ANY AGPx8 boards.... LOL

Vict

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Vict » Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:04:46






> > > > > <shrug> Just sharing my experiences with 'em. Consider yourself lucky, I guess, dork.

> > > > Heh. Who're you calling a ***. Wut, you gay or something?

> > > Um, "dork", not "dick", moron. Learn to read.
> >
> > Try looking up dork in the dictionary, then.

> Interesting...I've been using that term since at least junior high and have NEVER heard it used as a reference to a***; must be recent (within past 5-10 years perhaps). <shrug>

No, it predates your junior years. Its meaning has corroded over the
years, though.

But the point is that Intel is no more reliable than AMD. Hey, even
Intel has it's faults. Do you remember the math error in the original
Pentium? What an oversight that was! And Intel has also had it's share
of heat problems - especially the older 486-processors. And if you
don't think that's relevant, then don't bring up the ancient K5!

- Vic

Eep2

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Eep2 » Fri, 20 Sep 2002 15:14:06

<shrug> I never had a problem with a 486 (I had a 486SX/33 or something--blah, been so long I don't give a shit).





> > > > > Why couldn't you get the AMD to work?

> > > > I got it working fine; it would just overheat (despite a heat sink--this is a K5 I'm talking about) and hang my system a lot.

> > > More fans then, but that would have made it more noisy. Ok,
> > > overheating is annoying, but it hasn't happened with my Athlon.

> > <shrug> The POINT is the K5 said it only required a heatsink, not heatsinkS and (a) fan(s).

> > No, I'm sticking with reliable hardware, thank you: Intel and nVidia all the way.

> But the point is that Intel is no more reliable than AMD. Hey, even
> Intel has it's faults. Do you remember the math error in the original
> Pentium? What an oversight that was! And Intel has also had it's share
> of heat problems - especially the older 486-processors. And if you
> don't think that's relevant, then don't bring up the ancient K5!

Tim Mise

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Tim Mise » Fri, 20 Sep 2002 17:25:48


This is what I love about this newsgroup.  You just never stop learning!!
;)

-TIm

Adam Web

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Adam Web » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 11:09:14

something--blah, been so long I don't give a shit).

so, why do you give a shit about your old bad luck with the K5...? ;-)

Just remember, the last major fail ups have been from Intel's side.
Releasing a PIII running at 1000 when it couldnt compleat simple Linux
compiles and crashed very often.

And then P3 Chipset that used Rimm's then a convertor back to dimms.........

The Last good chip from Intel was the PII/III series, and the BX
chipset.....and, maybe thats the reason that was my last Intel system.....
:-(

Eep2

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Eep2 » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 14:15:21


> > <shrug> I never had a problem with a 486 (I had a 486SX/33 or
> something--blah, been so long I don't give a shit).

> so, why do you give a shit about your old bad luck with the K5...? ;-)

<shrug> K5's still in memory--just as is the ATI Rage 2+ and the IBM hard drive that died on me for no reason without bad sectors or anything. Remember, first impressions are everything...and my first impressions with these brands wasn't that nice!

Eh, Linux...<twirl finger>

Eh, RIMMs...can't blame Intel for trying a new RAM type that just didn't catch on. <shrug>

Eh, Intel chipsets...

Vict

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Vict » Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:45:57


> <shrug> I never had a problem with a 486 (I had a 486SX/33 or something--blah, been so long I don't give a shit).

Wasn't immersive enough for you? ;P

- Vic

Larr

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Larr » Sun, 22 Sep 2002 02:57:03

I'll agree on the BX.  Most solid chipset Intel ever released, or has since.

I've got one left, the P3B-F that is used as my Terminal Server/Network
Monitor with a 450Mhz Slot-1 P3.  Needs nothing more, and just runs and runs
and runs (and runs).

-Larry


Graham Thurlwel

How come no talk of ATI's 9700 Pro?!

by Graham Thurlwel » Mon, 23 Sep 2002 05:31:57


says...

That's more or less what my current system is - PIII 450 running on an ABIT
BH6.

I had thermal cutout trouble a few months back (took a couple of weeks to
diagnose), but screwing a new fan onto the heatsink seems to have cured it.
Just as well since I can't afford a new processor even if I could find a
pre-Coppermine Slot 1 PIII.

--
Graham 'Jades' Thurlwell

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