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GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

JAMES DUNPH

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by JAMES DUNPH » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00

DX486/100? P90? Anyone check out Microprose site lately? Can you believe
this shit. Well there goes most of their market. What do they think people
will do ? Go out ( or should I say RUN out ) and buy the latest greatest
processor? What do they think we are IDIOTS. We have to pick up where they
have left off, their lazy shoddy coding means we have to decrease our bank
accounts? I THINK NOT!!!!!!  
Jim Dunphy

Kyle Steve

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Kyle Steve » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00


You're a bit late, but yes, the requirements did change a while back.
Better then than afterwards, since the complaints would be about how
misleading the minimum requirements were and how could SH-MPS do that
to us because its totally unplayable on a 286 with 640K... ya da da ya
da da...

Anyway, I doubt we'll ever see everyone happy in either case, but it
is definitely the software entertainment industry that is driving and
pushing the requirements for the personal computer marketplace.  That,
I'm afraid, is your future as well as the same fate for the rest of
us.

KS

Oguz G?

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Oguz G? » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00



> >DX486/100? P90? Anyone check out Microprose site lately? Can you believe
> >this shit. Well there goes most of their market. What do they think people
> >will do ? Go out ( or should I say RUN out ) and buy the latest greatest
> >processor? What do they think we are IDIOTS. We have to pick up where they
> >have left off, their lazy shoddy coding means we have to decrease our bank
> >accounts? I THINK NOT!!!!!!
> >Jim Dunphy

> You're a bit late, but yes, the requirements did change a while back.
> Better then than afterwards, since the complaints would be about how
> misleading the minimum requirements were and how could SH-MPS do that
> to us because its totally unplayable on a 286 with 640K... ya da da ya
> da da...

> Anyway, I doubt we'll ever see everyone happy in either case, but it
> is definitely the software entertainment industry that is driving and
> pushing the requirements for the personal computer marketplace.  That,
> I'm afraid, is your future as well as the same fate for the rest of
> us.

> KSAnything you need for hardware upgrade is becoming cheaper & cheaper...so

what is the prob ? i dont see any 3d-game that runs fine on a 386/40 !
so to be REAL....coding is one part of the side, as pocessors cannot run
codes fast enough , there is no reason to say...uh ah ...a p90 ?
even 16meg , is affordable , about 100$ max , so whats it ?
Jason :

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Jason : » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00



> Hi

> I've read the test in a magazine. A DX266 will be enough to run the game
> in VGA with few details, but with a correct animation

It's all ***I have a Cyrix 686 150+ and my two friends have P166's
with all the good stuff fast g cards edo ram etc. And it's still chunky
on all our machines I think it was coded in basic!.
Michael Peters

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Michael Peters » Fri, 05 Jul 1996 04:00:00



What do you want? Some stripped down version? This game is going to be
like ICR2 and Nascar and ..... We will be playing it for a long time. And
you will have to upgrade eventually. When Nascar came out, I was running
on an old 486-33 (non-local bus). Yes, I was mad when Nascar came out and
I couldn't run it...and ICR for that matter too. But, now I am happy.
With these programs. I had to get a new computer because everything
wasn't running on it by then. It never ends. You will never have a fast
enough computer. The programs get bigger and better. Otherwise, we all
would still be playing Indianapolis.

A computer becomes obsolete when you take it out of the box.
--
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Stop on by, what can it hurt?

Thomas Beag

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Thomas Beag » Sat, 06 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>DX486/100? P90? Anyone check out Microprose site lately? Can you believe
>this shit. Well there goes most of their market. What do they think people
>will do ? Go out ( or should I say RUN out ) and buy the latest greatest
>processor?

Well, it's one of the main reasons I'm intending to upgrade.

I would point out that real-time high quality 3D modelling is one of
the most processor intensive tasks that computers do these days.

--
Thomas Beagle

JAMES DUNPH

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by JAMES DUNPH » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00

I'm running P90 24mg Diamond 3240 2mg Vram $4000.00 CDN latter and Nascar
still won't run with full graphics? You tell me. Is this right? Why should
we pay for someone else's sloppy coding?

Jo

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Jo » Sun, 07 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>I'm running P90 24mg Diamond 3240 2mg Vram $4000.00 CDN latter and Nascar
>still won't run with full graphics? You tell me. Is this right? Why should
>we pay for someone else's sloppy coding?

Full SVGA graphics with a fast frame rate (with all details on,
640x480) for a texture-mapped, 3D game requires about the equivalent
power to a 200Mhz Pentium. I have a P133 and still have to turn some
details off (for Nascar, Indycar, and I'm sure for GP2 when it comes
out).

Now before you panic and think you'll have to spend *another* grand or
two, think 3D cards. The Rendition card is coming out this summer, and
it looks great. For a few hundred dollars you will be able to upgrade
your Pentium to have that "200Mhz Pentium" performance you need.

None of this is Papyrus fault. If anyone's, it's IBMs for designing
the original PC graphics architecture so poorly.

Joe

John Smith

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by John Smith » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00


I have seen a pre-release version of the game (dont know if its legal
or whatever) on a friends-friends computer, ie pentium75, 16ram and
the game was playable in vga with a lot of the detail turned off at
about 23.1 frames, hopefully the full release will have fixed up some
of the slow frame performance.
Besides, computer hardware is so damm cheap these days!.!
Go out and get ya self a pentium motherboard/cpu, ya deserve it..

Remy Paste

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Remy Paste » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00

Hi

I've read the test in a magazine. A DX266 will be enough to run the game
in VGA with few details, but with a correct animation

John Wallac

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by John Wallac » Mon, 08 Jul 1996 04:00:00



Thus confirming for sure that you haven't actually seen a legit version
of the game.

We tested it extensively at Sim Racing News, and it is very playable in
SVGA on even a P-100 - on a P-166 and P-200 it absolutely flies (as it
should do!). You wouldn't have been visiting the "warez" groups and
downloading v0.1a, the totally unoptimised and full of bugs early
version would you? ;)

Cheers!
John

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Kyle Steve

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Kyle Steve » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00



>>I'm running P90 24mg Diamond 3240 2mg Vram $4000.00 CDN latter and Nascar
>>still won't run with full graphics? You tell me. Is this right? Why should
>>we pay for someone else's sloppy coding?

>None of this is Papyrus fault. If anyone's, it's IBMs for designing
>the original PC graphics architecture so poorly.

>Joe

Ditto that, Joe.  New architectures are hard to come by. :)  And
*** will always push the performance envelope beyond the average
home computer regardless of the vendor's minimum requirements.

KS

Tjar

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Tjar » Wed, 10 Jul 1996 04:00:00


schreibt:


>>I'm running P90 24mg Diamond 3240 2mg Vram $4000.00 CDN latter and
Nascar
>>still won't run with full graphics? You tell me. Is this right? Why
should
>>we pay for someone else's sloppy coding?

>Full SVGA graphics with a fast frame rate (with all details on,
>640x480) for a texture-mapped, 3D game requires about the equivalent
>power to a 200Mhz Pentium. I have a P133 and still have to turn some
>details off (for Nascar, Indycar, and I'm sure for GP2 when it comes
>out).

>Now before you panic and think you'll have to spend *another* grand or
>two, think 3D cards. The Rendition card is coming out this summer, and
>it looks great. For a few hundred dollars you will be able to upgrade
>your Pentium to have that "200Mhz Pentium" performance you need.

But that will ONLY help you if the game utilizes then 3D acceleration
features of the card. If it is not especially programmed that way, the
card won't make it any faster. As long there is no standard for 3D cards,
I won't buy one.

The modern cards have not that much in common with the "original PC
graphics architecture" (wouldn't that be Hercules? or even worse?). One
could say that there is no "PC graphics architecture" as such, as you can
use different cards. Instead, we have the choice of using the graphics
card we like. And today most people will buy PCI cards. The PCI bus is not
an IBM development, it's from Intel.

Greetings,
Tjark Kalow

Jon H Hibbi

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Jon H Hibbi » Thu, 11 Jul 1996 04:00:00


:I'm running P90 24mg Diamond 3240 2mg Vram $4000.00 CDN latter and Nascar
:still won't run with full graphics? You tell me. Is this right? Why should
:we pay for someone else's sloppy coding?

Do you program ??

Do you realise how hard it is to do 3D texture maping fast in SVGA and how many
hours it takes .. no mind the light source etc..etc..

I probely guess not!

Parry Anastasak

GP2 The Latest Min Requirements

by Parry Anastasak » Sun, 14 Jul 1996 04:00:00


> Hi

> I've read the test in a magazine. A DX266 will be enough to run the game
> in VGA with few details, but with a correct animation

It's all ***I have a Cyrix 686 150+ and my two friends have P166's
with all the good stuff fast g cards edo ram etc. And it's still chunky
on all our machines I think it was coded in basic!.

The games is not even out yet. What are you talking about.


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