rec.autos.simulators

by **Jlarson** » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00

TOCA2 just seems like an arcade game. Everything from Codemasters seems
arcade.

James Larson

by **Todd Dr** » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00

TOCA 2 - not because it's easier to win--it's just more FUN.

Got to agree, bought TOCA2 about 3 weeks ago and IMHO no other sim I've ever
raced captured the "spirit" of the series it's attempting to simulate like
TOCA2. I've watched BTCC on SpeedVision and it looks frantic. Racing in
TOCA2 is also frantic and one heck of alot of fun. Now, if only the damn AI
weren't so slow and they didn't give up once you passed them.

by **Mtank** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Great racing. Oval track racing is its own art form. Patience and precision.
Same with Indy car sims featuring ovals. You need a cool head to survive. I've
raced N1999 and while the racing is good the heavy cars and trucks just aren't
my cup 'o tea (teabagger lingo...).

by **Ian Parke** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I do hope so, but have they fixed the steering ? :)

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by **Infamous Capt Pota** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

: >alot of people will say GPL was the most realistic racing
: >simulation

There's a new game which most of you will never had heard of - Virtual
Grand Prix, which is an F1 simulator, and is definitely the most realistic
F1 simulator around. Whilst the graphics are not up with the latest high-
spec PC games, it does provide the most realistic simulator available.
Unfortunately, for most of you, it's Amiga only :) The author also actually
does listen his customers, and provides quick upgrades to it.

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by **Lightning Ler** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I've been out of the Amiga loop for a while. What spec does this require
and where does one obtain it?
I have an A1200 w/ '030 and 12M ram.

PC counterparts.

Lightning Leroy

by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I can't agree with F1GP being better on the Amiga. I loved F1GP on the
Amiga, it was the game that made me interested in f1 racing, but after
a few months I got my first pc. a 486dx, brand new for it's time.
I played F1GP on the pc, and didn't notice much difference with the
amiga version. Untill I tried the Amiga version again, I couldn't
believe how bad the framerate was compared to the pc version!
And the physics were exactly the same on the pc.

Andre

> I've been out of the Amiga loop for a while. What spec does this require
>and where does one obtain it?
> I have an A1200 w/ '030 and 12M ram.

>PC counterparts.

>Lightning Leroy

by **Mark** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

> If it's too oversteery for you, then you havn't set the car up

It's too oversteery because there's no understeer (that I found in the two
weeks I'd borrowed it for, anyway).

Depends on your idea of fun;-)

I can see where people are coming from with the frantic aspect, but the
handling model infuriates the hell out of me, whereas GPL fills me with joy
(OK, -slight- overstatement) everytime I take to the track just because the
car feels right.

I also don't find the arcade presentation does it any favours - but then I
will merrilly admit to being in the vast minority when it comes to TOCA2 - I
don't think I read a bad review anywhere, where I read a few complaining
about GPL.

Cheers

Mark
Reading, UK

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by **Terry Welc** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

While N3 and NL have some basic shortcomings in their physics and
modeling, they are certainly more fun than TOCA2 or SCGT just because of
the AI at speed. TOCA2 AI is too slow and gives up too easily. SCGT AI
is just plain nuts, and will run over you for position (Earnhardt in
GT1, maybe?). In either N3 or NL, for a really intense and fun offline
race go to one of the "bull rings" like Memphis, Hickory, Bristol, etc.
with a full field at 100% strength. We just need to get more folks
using Nascar Legends online and get more than 2 or 3 racers in a field.

Still, as an overall package, it will be a while before anybody is one
up on GPL for its physics. The realism is awesome - especially if you
have ever driven an open wheel car with no downforce (FV, etc.). The
online racing adds so much, too, except for the warping that makes close
racing and the start a bit scary.

> How do you guys think about Nascar? I've recently seen 1 Nascar 3 also
from
> Papyrus and Nascar Legends. Also seen 1 Nascar Revolution SE or
something
> like that from EA. So you guys have any comments on it? I don't really
like
> Nascar series of racing game but do you guys think it's good?

> > Just like to know what was the most realistic racing game right now
on the
> > market. I prefer either Rally, Touring and F1 type of racing game. I
know
> > right now, alot of people will say GPL was the most realistic racing
> > simulation but beside this are there any other?

> > I've D/L the Rally championship 2000 demo and find that this is a
very
> nice
> > Sim. I do hope that it will be release in time. But before this,
i'll like
> > to know others which is available at this moment.

> > BTW, do you guys find NFS: HS realistic? I really like the***pit
and the
> > graphic in it but was finding this game to be like an arcade game.
Any
> > comments?

> > Hope to have some of you guys comments.

> > Thanks.
> > Philip.

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by **Infamous Capt Pota** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

: I've been out of the Amiga loop for a while. What spec does this require
: and where does one obtain it?
: I have an A1200 w/ '030 and 12M ram.

Your machine can handle it. It needs AGA &/or a GFX card, CD-ROM drive,
030 and at least 4mb RAM.

: PC counterparts.

That's why there are still people playing F1GP in net championships :) (Not
to mention that we Amiga owners have been starved of newer games :P )

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by **Infamous Capt Pota** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

: I can't agree with F1GP being better on the Amiga. I loved F1GP on the
: Amiga, it was the game that made me interested in f1 racing, but after
: a few months I got my first pc. a 486dx, brand new for it's time.
: I played F1GP on the pc, and didn't notice much difference with the
: amiga version. Untill I tried the Amiga version again, I couldn't
: believe how bad the framerate was compared to the pc version!
: And the physics were exactly the same on the pc.

That's true for the out-of-the-box version, but with F1GP-Editor is can
be changed. Crammond didn't have the foresight to allow for faster Amigas
when he did the Amiga version :P The only feature lacking from the Amiga
version is the clouds of spray in the wet races. I think you'd be surprised
at what F1GP-Ed does to the game - even 1999 high noses are there now :)

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by **Daxe Rexfor** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Hey..

Amongst the numerous things I know absolutely nothing about is the Amiga
platform. Can you point me at a good URL to get a better understanding of
the hardware aspect?

Thanks for any help,

~daxe

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by **Daxe Rexfor** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

> The Amiga(God rest its soul) is dead. The corporeal eneities that
>wander aimlessly about proclaiming it's greatness are lost souls that
>don't know yet how to cross over to "the other side

I knew it was defunct, I am just curious about it since computer hardware
and operating systems are a sort of hobby of mine. There are 250+ items on
Ebay when you enter 'Amiga' as a search term, and the most expensive is
600$. Seems like getting the best (for its time) Amiga rig and plenty of
software for it would not be too expensive. I would just like to put it
through its paces and see what it does and doesn't do, blah blah blah.

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by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

The Amiga(God rest its soul) is dead. The corporeal eneities that
wander aimlessly about proclaiming it's greatness are lost souls that
don't know yet how to cross over to "the other side"
The saddest day of my computer life was when I gave up on my A500
Amiga and bought a 386dx. I went by the handle "The Fallen" to
symbolize my wretched existence having to learn about irq's and
autoexecs, and configs...Remember what the man said, you can't know how
low the lows are until you've seen the highs.(paraphrased)
Fallyn
Dave Henrie
former Amiga A500 owner.

> <snip amiga stuff>

> Hey..

> Amongst the numerous things I know absolutely nothing about is the Amiga
> platform. Can you point me at a good URL to get a better understanding of
> the hardware aspect?

> Thanks for any help,

> ~daxe

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by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Better =>

Amiga A500 8hz (keyboard & cpu in one unit no harddrive)
\
Amiga A1200(expansion bay, mainly used for cpu
accelerators)
\Amiga A1200 with .030 accelerator card
Amiga 2000 (traditional horizontal case)
\Amiga 3000 (tower case??)
\Amiga 4000 with .040 chipset.(might be higher
clock speeds) 40hz versus pc's 600 for Intell PIII or 700 for AMD Athlon

Amiga Toaster == Separate box that was first home broadcast quality
home video editor, partially designed and produced by the brother of
comedian Dana Carvey

(hz may be mhz I don't know the difference!!! ) :>

Amiga OS was hardcoded on replacable chips. Desktop enviroment was
loaded from hard drive on the 2000's or from floppy for the A500.
Originally used the same motorolla chip as the Mac. Think of a fully
developed amiga using the IBM Power PC chip of today...OOPS I starting
to sound like a ghost again.
Dave Henrie

> > The Amiga(God rest its soul) is dead. The corporeal eneities that
> >wander aimlessly about proclaiming it's greatness are lost souls that
> >don't know yet how to cross over to "the other side

> I knew it was defunct, I am just curious about it since computer hardware
> and operating systems are a sort of hobby of mine. There are 250+ items on
> Ebay when you enter 'Amiga' as a search term, and the most expensive is
> 600$. Seems like getting the best (for its time) Amiga rig and plenty of
> software for it would not be too expensive. I would just like to put it
> through its paces and see what it does and doesn't do, blah blah blah.

> daxe

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