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GTR release date?

Pa

GTR release date?

by Pa » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:03:23

Anybody have any "inside information" as to when we might see GTR on store shelves?

Thanks!
-Pat

RubberGoa

GTR release date?

by RubberGoa » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:52:52

One should hope after they finish it, would hate to see it ruined by rushing
for a deadline ... On that note, did anybody catch the comment by David
Kaemmer in that GameSpot article that they didn't finish GPL in time and
that they chose the wrong era?

Sheesh, I think he's being a bit harsh on himself!

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Anybody have any "inside information" as to when we might see GTR on store
shelves?

Thanks!
-Pat

Tony Jeste

GTR release date?

by Tony Jeste » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 10:33:53


The wrong era?  I read it but it was hard to believe.

Bruce Kennewel

GTR release date?

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:19:46

What era were they supposed to have chosen, did he say or indicate??

Bruce.


RubberGoa

GTR release date?

by RubberGoa » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:31:47

He said something about the cars being too hard to drive because they had
too much power and no wings - he didn't say much else on the subject

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- ***Goat - gummiged

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
- Dr. Strangelove

What era were they supposed to have chosen, did he say or indicate??

Bruce.


crossbon

GTR release date?

by crossbon » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 14:15:05

Let it be known that on Thu, 05 Aug 2004 01:33:53 GMT, "Tony Jester"




>> One should hope after they finish it, would hate to see it ruined by
>rushing
>> for a deadline ... On that note, did anybody catch the comment by David
>> Kaemmer in that GameSpot article that they didn't finish GPL in time and
>> that they chose the wrong era?

>The wrong era?  I read it but it was hard to believe.

Well, if you want to make a commercially successful game, you don't use some of
the hardest to drive cars.
Andrew MacPhers

GTR release date?

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:45:00

Mmm... maybe we can take that as a clue to what he's doing next :-)

Andrew McP... clutching at straws again

Bruce Kennewel

GTR release date?

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:11:51

Interesting comment...and one in which his conclusion (too hard to drive)
does not necessarily equate with real life.
I say this on the basis of something which came to light within a year of
GPL being released, in that a reputable ex-F1 driver, on seeing the
simulation, remarked that they were not as much of a handful as is portrayed
in GPL.

This was further backed up by the fact that the wife of the owner of one of
the ex-Tasman Cup 2.5 litre Brabhams said that it was delightful to drive;
this after putting in several fast laps at Wakefield Park.

Since 1998 there has been further educated comment that the physics of the
GPL cars are *not* an accurate representation of the handling of the cars.
In essence, they appear to be "too twitchy".

Regards,
Bruce.


RubberGoa

GTR release date?

by RubberGoa » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 21:05:24

Hmm I wonder how much easier it is in real life... where you can 'feel' . I
always seem to do better in a Go-Kart than a Sim purely because I seem to go
with the road better

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- ***Goat - gummiged

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!"
- Dr. Strangelove

Interesting comment...and one in which his conclusion (too hard to drive)
does not necessarily equate with real life.
I say this on the basis of something which came to light within a year of
GPL being released, in that a reputable ex-F1 driver, on seeing the
simulation, remarked that they were not as much of a handful as is portrayed
in GPL.

This was further backed up by the fact that the wife of the owner of one of
the ex-Tasman Cup 2.5 litre Brabhams said that it was delightful to drive;
this after putting in several fast laps at Wakefield Park.

Since 1998 there has been further educated comment that the physics of the
GPL cars are *not* an accurate representation of the handling of the cars.
In essence, they appear to be "too twitchy".

Regards,
Bruce.


Plowboy

GTR release date?

by Plowboy » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:23:33

Ya,

    But to be fair, are you just beating the local "Joyland Park" drivers
when you cart, or are you competing against what I would have to call a
"Hardened" group of racers?  I can beat anyone who has ever sat down at my
computer to try it (GPL), but that aint nothing compared to the zealots
online ya know...  What do I mean by Joyland?  Sure, even if I get the slow
cart, & the rest of the boyscout troop is there, I can usually pass
EVERYONE, but when I was in Memphis, my Gran-Prix time was not as low as the
track champion, I was a member of the 44 second club thou...  I still have
that licence to prove it.  The gran Prix cars were not hard to drive, but
they were hard to drive "Hard".  So I have no doubt that the wife of anyone
wouldn't have a blast taking any race car around the track a few laps, but
then again I have watched the powderpuff night at the local tracks too, and
actuall lap times by 80% of the wife/girlfriend of the drivers was easily 4
or so seconds slower on a 3/8th mile track.


> Hmm I wonder how much easier it is in real life... where you can
> 'feel' . I always seem to do better in a Go-Kart than a Sim purely
> because I seem to go with the road better



>> He said something about the cars being too hard to drive because
>> they had too much power and no wings - he didn't say much else on
>> the subject

Pa

GTR release date?

by Pa » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:54:21

Pretty standard RAS thread...  I ask a question about racing sim
(other than GPL) and get exactly one useless answer (GTR will be
released... when it's ready) - and 10 posts discussing GPL.  Hey, I
love GPL as much as the next guy, but I would have expected the thread
to go at least 2-3 posts before morphing into GPL only banter. :o)

Anyhow, I was asking about the GTR release date because everything I
had read a couple of months ago pointed to a late Summer release.  We
are getting close to what one might consider "late Summer" and I'm not
seeing anything mentioned about GTR's release.

Also, does anyone know if SimBin will be releasing an updated demo
(with AI cars, etc...) when the game is completed?  My system
(XP2500+, 500mb, Radeon 9600) does ok with the curent demo, but I'm
not sure that's an accurate measure of how it will do with the final
release.

Thanks!
Pat

Andi Col

GTR release date?

by Andi Col » Fri, 06 Aug 2004 23:52:34

But what did you really think of the GPL demo? ;-)

Andi

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JP

GTR release date?

by JP » Sat, 07 Aug 2004 01:16:22

  Yep, exactly.


> Interesting comment...and one in which his conclusion (too hard to drive)
> does not necessarily equate with real life.
> I say this on the basis of something which came to light within a year of
> GPL being released, in that a reputable ex-F1 driver, on seeing the
> simulation, remarked that they were not as much of a handful as is
portrayed
> in GPL.

> This was further backed up by the fact that the wife of the owner of one
of
> the ex-Tasman Cup 2.5 litre Brabhams said that it was delightful to drive;
> this after putting in several fast laps at Wakefield Park.

> Since 1998 there has been further educated comment that the physics of the
> GPL cars are *not* an accurate representation of the handling of the cars.
> In essence, they appear to be "too twitchy".

> Regards,
> Bruce.



> > He said something about the cars being too hard to drive because they
had
> > too much power and no wings - he didn't say much else on the subject

Plowboy

GTR release date?

by Plowboy » Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:00:19

PAT,

    I guess you would have been happier with <insert Crickets Chirping on
this thread??>  I got to say, you got a few educated guesses, and the time
since you posted surely those who you assume knew, had time to post, or not
as the case may well be?  Hell I wouldnt have realized that we hijacked the
thread at all, but like you I really liked what I have seen so far on the
GTR demo, yet I also like GPL and other sims.  Sheesh I figured I least had
something in common based on that <reread SIM'R> but as usuall, we "sim-ers"
got off topic waiting for the answer...
:)

<Insert Steve Martin (from comedy is not pretty album)
"WELLL EXXXXCCCCUUUUUUUUUSE, ME!>  ROFLMAO.

Oh yeah, dont forget I put a smiley in here as Im just ribbin ya...


> But what did you really think of the GPL demo? ;-)

> Andi

>> Pretty standard RAS thread...  I ask a question about racing sim
>> (other than GPL) and get exactly one useless answer (GTR will be
>> released... when it's ready) - and 10 posts discussing GPL.  Hey, I
>> love GPL as much as the next guy, but I would have expected the
>> thread to go at least 2-3 posts before morphing into GPL only
>> banter. :o)

>> Anyhow, I was asking about the GTR release date because everything I
>> had read a couple of months ago pointed to a late Summer release.  We
>> are getting close to what one might consider "late Summer" and I'm
>> not seeing anything mentioned about GTR's release.

>> Also, does anyone know if SimBin will be releasing an updated demo
>> (with AI cars, etc...) when the game is completed?  My system
>> (XP2500+, 500mb, Radeon 9600) does ok with the curent demo, but I'm
>> not sure that's an accurate measure of how it will do with the final
>> release.

>> Thanks!
>> Pat

Andi Col

GTR release date?

by Andi Col » Sat, 07 Aug 2004 02:30:22

OK, how about 17th September in Sweden and Norway.

http://se.gamesmix.com/

Andi.

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