rec.autos.simulators

> Well, Byron old mate, I've never really thought of the "V8 Supercars" as
> "real Bathurst" anyway.
> In MY book, real tin-top racing died there when the event was reduced to
two
> makes and one class.
> The "Australian Touring Car Championship" with just Ford and Holden V8's?
> You've gotta be kidding?!
> This is a manufactured project, specifically designed for TV and nothing
> else.

> So, in MY book, the 24-hour is neither better nor worse than the ATCC - in
> fact, with its class break-up, it is certainly closer in format (yes, I
know
> that the types of cars are different) to what the ATCC used to be like
than
> the rubbish which passes as "touring car" racing today.

> Peter Brock is neither hero nor villain for me but is simply one of those
> drivers I associate with the days when I used to attend every ***y event
> at Oran Park, Warwick Farm, Catalina Park, Amaroo Park and Bathurst!

> But then that was when motor-sports were for two classes of people:
> competitors and track-side spectators.

> Bruce.

> >   So this is the "real" Bathurst in your book now Bruce? So what's the
V8
> > Supercar one then?

> >   Mate, it's gotta be part of the ATCC to qualify - in my book. Gee peop
le
> > get obsessed with their heroes and nice round numbers like "10"! :)

>    No argument from me, but....
>   Although the Holden/Ford only ATCC has become stale, it is still the
>ATCC. And what this really means is that the best of the aussie drivers,
>with a few international drivers mixed in, are there. Not so for the 24 hour
>race. The 24 hour race is too international, too liberal with the rules and
>most of all it's a one off. This particular win is nothing like Brocky"s
>"legitimate 9" and to say it is only cheapens those 9 in my opinion. And the
>man himself. No comparison. Let him grow old gracefully. It's like a 70s
>band trying to make a comeback! :)

> "Cheapens the other nine"?!!
> Gimme a break!
> Taking part in punting ANY car around Panorama for 24 hours is in no way
> "cheapening" any previous six-hour effort, irrespective of when it took
> place and in what type of car.

> Bruce.

> > This particular win is nothing like Brocky"s "legitimate 9" and to say
it
> is only cheapens those 9 in my opinion.

>    All this 24 hour race is is a showcase for GM. They own it! Not a level
> playing field for the top runners at all. Joke.
>       Don't tell me Bruce, that when they ran the 4 bangers there that you
> thought that was a legit "Bathurst" race as well?

>    Anyway, so your saying that this 24 hour race is the new "Real
Bathurst"
> race and that the V8 Supercar one is just another race at Bathurst?

>    Gimme a break! :)

> > "Cheapens the other nine"?!!
> > Gimme a break!
> > Taking part in punting ANY car around Panorama for 24 hours is in no way
> > "cheapening" any previous six-hour effort, irrespective of when it took
> > place and in what type of car.

> > Bruce.

> > > This particular win is nothing like Brocky"s "legitimate 9" and to say
> it
> > is only cheapens those 9 in my opinion.

> Give it a rest, Byron.
> You know what you like; I know what I like.
> Leave it at that.

> BK

> >    All this 24 hour race is is a showcase for GM. They own it! Not a
level
> > playing field for the top runners at all. Joke.
> >       Don't tell me Bruce, that when they ran the 4 bangers there that
you
> > thought that was a legit "Bathurst" race as well?

> >    Anyway, so your saying that this 24 hour race is the new "Real
> Bathurst"
> > race and that the V8 Supercar one is just another race at Bathurst?

> >    Gimme a break! :)

> > > "Cheapens the other nine"?!!
> > > Gimme a break!
> > > Taking part in punting ANY car around Panorama for 24 hours is in no
way
> > > "cheapening" any previous six-hour effort, irrespective of when it
took
> > > place and in what type of car.

> > > Bruce.

> > > > This particular win is nothing like Brocky"s "legitimate 9" and to
say
> > it
> > > is only cheapens those 9 in my opinion.